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Thanks for making the point John. [[User:Smoothswim|Smoothswim]] ([[User talk:Smoothswim#top|talk]]) 00:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for making the point John. [[User:Smoothswim|Smoothswim]] ([[User talk:Smoothswim#top|talk]]) 00:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

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Since nobody else has... Welcome!

Response by smoothswim

Given my experience of Wikipedia so far, this title comes across as trolling (sarcasm.) Thanks! I guess... Smoothswim (talk) 23:16, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, Smoothswim, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

You may also want to complete the Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. You can visit the Teahouse to ask questions or seek help.

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 21:05, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Response by smoothswim

Thanks for the tip John! I will use it to sign. Although I'm not really intending to be around here much longer. The experience so far has been horrible. I was warned that there is a toxic community here but you seem OK :) Smoothswim (talk) 23:21, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. From AnUnnamedUser (open talk page) 03:05, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Response by smoothswim

I added a response. I regret ever coming to Wikipedia and editing just to be trolled. Lesson learned. Smoothswim (talk) 00:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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October 2019

Information icon Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 05:01, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As another editor from MK, may I offer some friendly advice? That caution from The Management means please don't accuse other editors of vandalism or blindly revert what they have done. Wikipedia works by people having a go and accepting other editors' contributions and edits as being genuinely intended to improve the article. We don't WP:OWN the articles we create. If someone makes an edit you don't like, use the article talk page to debate it - perhaps the reason is that something wasn't clear and needed explaining better.. Wikipedia needs editors who contribute good new content (especially about Milton Keynes, but then I'm biased), anybody can tart it up. So please don't be discouraged! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 21:05, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Response by smoothswim

Again, I feel like this is an attack and an example of toxic community here at Wikipedia. I could go on and pick at your points and offer you some friendly advice but it's a waste of both our time. Remember: Never assume. Editors must act in good faith. I never once assumed ownership of any single article despite your assertion and articles I created and edited were vandalized by a serial deleter. This is not the place for this discussion and your comment could be misconstrued as brigading. Please. Just. Stop. Smoothswim (talk) 00:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lead Section

Per WP:LEAD, the lead section should give a summary of the highlights or key points of the article. When you get a chance, you should write that.

Response by smoothswim

...And so could you or anyone else. Correct? Smoothswim (talk) 00:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Buszy, "fanzine" criticism

How to other skate park articles resolve the "it's just a fanzine" criticism? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 20:49, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Response by smoothswim

They don't need to. Using the "it's just a fanzine" banner is just a method of trolling used to try to discredit an editor in this example. The fact that there are over forty well researched sources proves without a shadow of a doubt that this is no fan work.

The truth is that I have skateboarded at the Buszy since 1996 and lived in the City Centre for 5 years. I grew up around all of the goings on at the place and was writing the article because no body else was. The Skate MK project and MKDP (the building's owners) haven't even tried to add anything but hearsay to Wikipedia about it's history. Hearsay, which I BTW went out of my way to find sources to validate. I suspect Skate MK could have prioritised funding to add information to Wikipedia if they thought the site had relevancy. But no one was going to write this article IMO and no one was talking about it at the meetup. The Buszy is of massive historical importance to Street Skateboarding. It is the World's first ever custom build Street Skateboarding plaza. I was of the opinion that Wikipedia was the place for factual information about that sort of thing.

If it's the trivia section, please just remove or repurpose it.

Thanks for making the point John. Smoothswim (talk) 00:07, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]


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