Talk:Đại Việt–Lan Xang War (1479–1484)

The territory change

Dear

I am searching for information about the war recently and found out that there was a territory change according to 2 Vietnamese geography and history records: Lịch triều hiến chương loại chí (歷朝憲章類誌) and Đại Việt địa dư toàn biên (大越地輿全編). Classical Chinese versions:

http://lib.nomfoundation.org/collection/1/search?csrfmiddlewaretoken=959cd7e79b4d203176298ed1ef2309ab&query=%E5%A4%A7%E8%B6%8A%E5%9C%B0%E8%BC%BF%E5%85%A8%E7%B7%A8

http://lib.nomfoundation.org/collection/1/volume/120/

Territory of Muang Phuan kingdom spread from today Lao's Houaphanh province in the North to Khammouane province in the South, after the war the northern part (Houaphanh and Xiangkhouang, now renamed "Tran Ninh" by Vietnamese) was merged with Nghe An of DaiViet, the southern remain under Lanxang control.

24 December 2019 (UTC)

Major Re-write

I will be re-writing this article. I have obtained copies of the two excellent histories of Laos / Lan Xang that were referenced and I find that the article currently does not accurately reflect what was written about the war and its impact upon history. The current article also exaggerates the length and breadth of the war. There is not a lot of information generally available about the war and numerous issues are in dispute. I find the current article biased in favor of Vietnam without support for many of the statements made. So I plan to re-write, trying to stay true to what is said in the references that I cite. I will also be changing the name of the article. My apologies to the original author(s) for what I have changed, however without additional / better sources and inline citations, I do not believe what was originally written. VFF0347 VFF0347 (talk) 19:16, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

@VFF0347: the article's creator has been blocked for sockpuppetry, and so I doubt you will suffer much push-back. Good luck with the re-write. SamHolt6 (talk) 03:23, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Changes to "Vietnamese-Laotian War (1479-80)"

Dear Contributor 117.2.210.223

I am going to undo the changes you made today to the article "Vietnamese-Laotian War (1479–80)." The changes that I made when re-writing the article are factual and based upon two excellent sources. I have provided citations with sources for everything that I wrote.

The changes that you made in some cases are a matter of opinion and in other cases not factual. Your have not provided any citations or new sources to support your changes. If you really feel that I have made errors, please provide new citations and the source(s) for your changes. Please have the courage to come out from under your veil of anonymity and support your position with your arguments and sources, person-to-person.

I have tried to be straightforward and factual in my rewrite. My rewrite was not mean to be an affront to Vietnam or the history of Vietnam. I am simply trying to report factual history. If you re-change the article again without coming forward to discussion particular issues and providing justification (citations and sources) I will report your changes as vandalism.

VFF0347 VFF0347 (talk) 20:42, 18 September 2019 (UTC)