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Notability unclear, currently established through a single reference to an obscure journal. Needs more reliable, secondary sources presents to present the subject of the article as the founder of contemporary dance in Armenia. Charmanderblue (talk) 17:20, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that there was some commentary at the malformed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan (2nd nomination). I would advise Stella Loretsyan to concentrate on finding good sources in Armenian and Russian, rather than bad sources in English. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with you Charmanderblue that the word founder is not the correct one to present a living person without the article where there isn't the statement about it, though Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan staged the performances in contemporary dance from 2003, and there are a lot the festivals and video documentations, which prove that fact. And before 2003 there were no theatres and performers who stated that they were working in contemporary dance. But I also understand that Wikipedia's rules are strict and II need to proove word by word the statements I have written in this page. So I would like to know whether, instead of the sentence Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan is considered to be one of the founders of contemporary dance in Armenia from Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan's wikipedia page, I can use the following sentence Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan is the first ones who has developed contemporary dance in Armenia Stella Loretsyan (talk) 17:44, 3 May 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stella Loretsyan (talk • contribs) [reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Dance-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your advice Phil Bridger. There are a lot of articles about Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan in Armenian and Russian and also there is an article about Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan in the book Contemporary Dance in the Former Soviet Union by the Russian Contemporary Dance historian and teacher Ekaterina Vasenina. Can the articles in the Armenian and Russian newspapers and magazines and the book be considered good sources? Here are some articles in Armenian:

https://www.aravot.am/2012/07/19/302279/

http://www.panarmenian.net/arm/news/112350/

http://panarmenian.net/arm/news/78500/

https://www.aysor.am/am/news/2009/02/10/mihr/6734

Info in English:

http://www.lairarts.com/tsolak-galstyan.html

https://www.gabrielleneuhaus.com/lavash/

http://asbarez.com/97973/citf-and-adaa-host-us-premiere-from-mihr-theatre-of-armenia/

https://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/65602/

Thank you in advance!Stella Loretsyan (talk) 18:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete lacks WP:sigcov ot establish notbaility. Formatted as a promotional CV. Not sure where one would begin to trim it, or what the underlying notable activity might be once trimmed. Theatre manager? Also, how can someone who was born in 1984 be a "founder of contemporary dance in Armenia?" Assuming they got started at 22 years old with the "founding activities", that would mean that contemporary dance in Armenia started in 2006, which is extremely unlikely, seeing as it started in the 1950s or earlier in other places. In sum the article has a lot of hype and not much to convince me of notability. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 19:04, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can check and will see, that contemporary dance as a theatrical direction has been developed in Armenia from 2000s and not only in Armenia, but also in other former Soviet Union countres, for example in Russia, it has been developing from 1990s. The main reason why contemporary dance theatrical diirection has been developing so late, is the political situation and Cold War between Soviet Union and The western countries, where the theatrical direction contemporary dance developed. An only after the collapse of Soviet Union the borders were opened and we could develop arts in the direction the Western countries developed. And if I will replace "founder of contemporary dance in Armenia? with ethe statement Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan is the first ones who has developed contemporary dance in Armenia can this problem be solved?Stella Loretsyan (talk) 19:17, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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	*'''Delete''' lacks [[WP:sigcov]] ot establish notbaility. Formatted as a promotional CV. Not sure where one would begin to trim it, or what the underlying notable activity might be once trimmed. Theatre manager? Also, how can someone who was born in 1984 be a "founder of contemporary dance in Armenia?" Assuming they got started at 22 years old with the "founding activities", that would mean that contemporary dance in Armenia started in 2006, which is extremely unlikely, seeing as it started in the 1950s or earlier in other places. In sum the article has a lot of hype and not much to convince me of notability. [[User:ThatMontrealIP\|ThatMontrealIP]] ([[User talk:ThatMontrealIP\|talk]]) 19:04, 3 May 2020 (UTC)		*'''Delete''' lacks [[WP:sigcov]] ot establish notbaility. Formatted as a promotional CV. Not sure where one would begin to trim it, or what the underlying notable activity might be once trimmed. Theatre manager? Also, how can someone who was born in 1984 be a "founder of contemporary dance in Armenia?" Assuming they got started at 22 years old with the "founding activities", that would mean that contemporary dance in Armenia started in 2006, which is extremely unlikely, seeing as it started in the 1950s or earlier in other places. In sum the article has a lot of hype and not much to convince me of notability. [[User:ThatMontrealIP\|ThatMontrealIP]] ([[User talk:ThatMontrealIP\|talk]]) 19:04, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


	: You can check and will see, that contemporary dance as a theatrical direction has been developed in Armenia from 2000s and not only in Armenia, but also in other former Soviet Union countres, for example in Russia, it has been developing from 1990s. The main reason why contemporary dance theatrical diirection has been developing so late, is the political situation and Cold War between Soviet Union and The western countries, where the theatrical direction contemporary dance developed. An only after the collapse of Soviet Union the borders were opened and we could develop arts in the direction the Western countries developed. And if I will replace "founder of contemporary dance in Armenia? with ethe statement ''Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan is the first ones who has developed contemporary dance in Armenia'' can this problem be solved?		: You can check and will see, that contemporary dance as a theatrical direction has been developed in Armenia from 2000s and not only in Armenia, but also in other former Soviet Union countres, for example in Russia, it has been developing from 1990s. The main reason why contemporary dance theatrical diirection has been developing so late, is the political situation and Cold War between Soviet Union and The western countries, where the theatrical direction contemporary dance developed. An only after the collapse of Soviet Union the borders were opened and we could develop arts in the direction the Western countries developed. And if I will replace "founder of contemporary dance in Armenia? with ethe statement ''Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan is the first ones who has developed contemporary dance in Armenia'' can this problem be solved?[[User:Stella Loretsyan\|Stella Loretsyan]] ([[User talk:Stella Loretsyan\|talk]]) 19:17, 3 May 2020 (UTC)