User talk:Rotideypoc41352

Curious, can you point me to the guidance

Your comment that interviews aren't reliable I can't find in WP guidance. WP:RSP sources report on interviews all the time and are incl on WP. Can you tell me where you're basing that so I can fix some articles. Thx. ToeFungii (talk) 04:07, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

@ToeFungii: per WP:TPO: Never edit or move someone's comment to change its meaning, even on your own talk page (emphasis in the original), as you did at Talk:Gregory Tony#Edit warring. If you find a statement objectionable, ping the person or ask on their talk to strike it, after explaining what for.

Since you've already opened a BLP noticeboard discussion, I'll leave the clarification of reliable sources policies to them. No use splitting the discussion and repeating statements. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 04:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

I apologize. I did not see you had made a comment. When I looked at the history I thought I was solely undoing my comment. Not sure if I hadn't refreshed the page and it wasn't intentional. But I would still like to ask where your comment that interviews aren't reliable is based on. If you answer on the article's talk page no need to come here, but I am curious because I've read thru blp and rsp and don't see anything that says that but I could easily be missing it as it's a lot of materials. thx. ToeFungii (talk) 04:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Help with "Petr & The Wulf (album by Munly & The Lupercalians)"

Main article: Petr & the Wulf

Hi, I wanted to thank you for all your edits on this page! Looks we were both on the page at the same exact time at one point :O

I'm still new at all this - I've also been editing Jay Munly (if you've noticed) and Slim Cessna's Auto Club these past couple of months.

I do have a question to ask you: I picked a page at random to try to model this page after - I chose Taylor Swift's Speak Now album. On "Track Listing" and "Personnel", it says "credits adapted from liner notes". If you hover over the numbered citations, one example is: Speak Now Deluxe Edition (CD). Taylor Swift. Big Machine Records. 2010. 602527493947. Should the 'source' for liner notes look more like that? What does the last number mean, and how do I cite that? Is there a template for it? - Xx rapunzel xx (talk) 02:05, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

@Xx rapunzel xx: no problem, and welcome to Wikipedia!

Before I answer your question, some advice: model an article you're improving after a featured or good article. While that method is not completely foolproof, FAs and GAs, as they're often abbreviated, go through a review before promotion. What you're looking to emulate: a) quality of the prose, b) types and quality of the references, and c) article structure.

Should the 'source' for liner notes look more like that?

I might not be the right person to ask; I don't edit music articles much and have little music knowledge more generally speaking. Some featured articles on albums have that phrasing; some don't. You may find Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums helpful. Looks like they have a style guide in addition to the usual WikiProject talk page (where you can ask questions).

What does the last number mean, and how do I cite that?

While I lack familiarity with albums, this number looked like other identifiers I have encountered, like ISBNs or DOIs. Some database tells me it's that CD's UPC.

Ideally, you would have direct access to the physical media itself and copy the number beneath the barcode. If not, you could probably omit it. Of course, if you have the number, definitely put in the citation; the more info readers have to find the source, the better.

Is there a template for it?

Template:Cite AV media notes. Based on the template documentation, the article should actually cite the liner notes' ISBN or other more specific identifier, instead of the UPC. That makes sense, as the CD is technically a related but separate object, and the liner notes are a book(let) after all and so would be assigned an ISBN.

Hope that helped! Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:59, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

But i must have mixed it up again, i just don't understand why all the rest is not shown... the further reading section, the external links etc. - am i really so stupid to make the same mistake twice? Please, could you again have a look? I stop for tonight, i'm afraid as anxious as i am, i will erase the whole text unvoluntarily... sigh... --Gyanda (talk) 21:16, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Okay, i guess, i managed to get it okay again after you fixed it and i mixed it up again :-) - Please excuse, i didn't know that such little things as "/" could cause so much trouble. Kind regards and again thank you for fixing it! --Gyanda (talk) 21:25, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome! There's a saying that computers are like small children: the problem isn't that they don't do as you say but that they do exactly as you say. It just takes some time to adjust, so don't worry! (-: Everyone was once a beginner, and then we become proficient by making mistakes and learning from them, right? Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 21:40, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

I wrote to a friend about this and i wrote: "If you think you know what you're doing - then it goes wrong" :-) - one has to be so concentrated and on high-alert when working on wikipedia. It's not only the formatting which of course is different in the german version of wikipedia than in the english - it's also to be alert on translating the text in a good manner and sometimes, when it is late at night and you think, ah, i will only finish this small chapter - boing... you're out :-). I was so thankful that you found the mistake i had made - i was really afraid, i would have to re-write and re-formate everything i worked on the whole day. Thanks again!!! Wonderful that you have such a sharp eye that you could identify the mistake! Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 23:54, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Question

Hi Rotideypoc41352, I noticed that you replaced Template:Infobox person on Cloudkitty's userpage with Template:Infobox Wikipedia user. I know that many people do use it in their userpages, but was wondering whether there's a guideline I wasn't aware of against using it? Thank you! aboideau^{sapere aude} 22:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Aboideau: I do not know of any guideline or policy against Infobox_person on userpages. What makes you ask? I just want to make sure I fully address any concerns. Stay safe, Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 22:27, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply! I just asked because I occasionally come across new users who are using it, and I wondered whether I should just leave it alone in those cases, or whether it was deprecated so as to take precedence over WP:NOBAN. aboideau^{sapere aude} 22:38, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Aboideau: no problem. In those cases, if the userpage has no problems, leave it be. As a general note, Cloudkitty has been indef'd. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 22:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)