Talk:Stan (song)

Not Neutral

Whoever wrote this saying it has a haunting melody is not neutral and must be Eminems biggest fanboy/groupie ever. I dont think its haunting. NOT NPOV! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.17.26.4 (talk • contribs) .

You know, I would applaud your attention to NPOV, if it wasn't belied by your recent edits to ICP related articles, which amount to nothing more than POV vandalism. Please don't pretend to be a defender of Wikipedia until you bother to extend the same protection to topics you dislike. Kasreyn 09:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Possible copyright infringement

This appears to contain most of the song: I suggest that this is substantially a copyright violation... User:194.51.2.34

Okay, I did think it might be a bit excessive myself. But I'm not sure that all of the explanation of the lyrics needs to go. I'll go and ask User:TUF-KAT about it, on his talk page. Hopefully we can all come to some sort of agreement on how much can stay in. -- Oliver P. 16:10, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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Yo i think this song was off the hook

Put my picture on the wall cuase it reminds me that its not so bad its not so bad

Edit history

Please note that the edit history of this article is scattered in several places. It began as part of the article at The Marshall Mathers LP, which was at teh time entirely written by User:TUF-KAT. On 04 Dec 2002, he moved the content to Stan. On 15 Jun 2003, User:J.J. moved the content again to Stan (song), where it is now. -- Oliver P. 15:55, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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Ignoring the chorus for a moment, first verse: 3.5 lines quoted out of 17 second verse: 10 lines quoted out of 27 third verse: 5 lines quoted out of 25 fourth verse: 11 lines quoted out of 27 Total: 29.5 lines quoted out of 96

I don't feel that this is "massive overquoting". Every line in my version was used to illustrate a facet of the song. The new version barely gives the gist of the story and doesn't contain anywhere's near the amount of useful information for readers who might not have understood something like the Phil Collins or Starter cap references. This version contains barely any description of the song's sound, tone or songwriting beyond that it is "haunting".

While the principle of fair use is ill-defined, copyrighted works can be quoted to illustrate a point for reporting or critical purposes. This article in no way functioned as a replacement for actually purchasing the song, and didn't detract from its value. As such, I will be largely reverting back to my version but will make some concessions and cut out a couple more lines. Tuyf-Kat yo this is to marshal iam you biggest fan

No way of sending out the tape (nitpick)

"At the end, Stan realizes he has no way of sending out the tape he is recording on, because his car will, presumably, explode or otherwise ruin the tape after he drives off the bridge."

The lyrics are, according to lyricsdepot.com:

Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now Oh shit, I forgot, how'm I supposed to send this shit out? {*car tires squeal*} {*CRASH*} .. {*brief silence*} .. {*LOUD splash*}

I've always interpreted this as meaning simply that he realizes that he won't be able to send the tape out because he'll be dead. At the end of the song Eminem saps, "in the car they found a tape, but they didn't say who it was to"; if the tape had been ruined he wouldn't know this.

-rast, april 16 2005

Agreed. Flillibridge 01:52, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Category:Debut single

Whose debut single is this? KayEss | talk 09:14, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't aware this was a debut single....

-Ben Simon

The tape?

Hey, I heard this song again after a very long time the other day. While I was listening to the last of Stan's lyrics, which I always thought was "how'm I going to send this shit out?", I thought that it sounded a lot like "I'm not supposed to sit this shit out", which obviously would put a completely different meaning to it. I'm probably completely wrong, I listened to this song loads a few years ago thinking it was the other lyric, then listened to it once recently and thought it might be the second one, which isn't really enough, I know, but I just thought I'd mention it. --Aceizace 00:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)--