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:'''Keep (most)''' The articles are in a poor state, but it wasn't hard to find multiple independent secondary sources (which seem reliable enough) for most of them, which should satisfy [[WP:GNG]]. Just FYI regarding the national championships, there are financial barriers to playing any sport; the semi-professional leagues have non-overlapping schedules with the club season (and the dilution of the club talent pool is minimal, if anything its the other way around); most of the cited national championships happened before the existence of semi-professional leagues; the articles also cite worlds level championships. The three clubs here have won major international tournaments held on 4-year cycles, and to quote this line from [[WP:NSPORT]]: "that sports figures are likely to meet Wikipedia's basic standards of inclusion if they have, for example, participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level" [[User:AndyZ|AZ]] 02:08, 3 June 2020 (UTC) |
:'''Keep (most)''' The articles are in a poor state, but it wasn't hard to find multiple independent secondary sources (which seem reliable enough) for most of them, which should satisfy [[WP:GNG]]. Just FYI regarding the national championships, there are financial barriers to playing any sport; the semi-professional leagues have non-overlapping schedules with the club season (and the dilution of the club talent pool is minimal, if anything its the other way around); most of the cited national championships happened before the existence of semi-professional leagues; the articles also cite worlds level championships. The three clubs here have won major international tournaments held on 4-year cycles, and to quote this line from [[WP:NSPORT]]: "that sports figures are likely to meet Wikipedia's basic standards of inclusion if they have, for example, participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level" [[User:AndyZ|AZ]] 02:08, 3 June 2020 (UTC) |
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:: Also, there were two prior AfDs [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Furious_george|1]] [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Vancouver_Furious_George|2]] that were consensus keep. [[User:AndyZ|AZ]] 03:12, 5 June 2020 (UTC) |
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:To augment comment from AndyZ: The Championships are run by the National Governing Body for Sport in the US, part of the USOPC and World Flying Disc Federation, part of the IOC. These events are analogous to other smaller international sporting events which are part of the Olympic family. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ahgoff|Ahgoff]] ([[User talk:Ahgoff#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ahgoff|contribs]]) 21:15, 3 June 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
:To augment comment from AndyZ: The Championships are run by the National Governing Body for Sport in the US, part of the USOPC and World Flying Disc Federation, part of the IOC. These events are analogous to other smaller international sporting events which are part of the Olympic family. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ahgoff|Ahgoff]] ([[User talk:Ahgoff#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ahgoff|contribs]]) 21:15, 3 June 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Not seeing WP:GNG. Club teams are pay-to-play and "national championships" aren't really that due to the pay-to-play nature and the emergence of semi-pro leagues that dilute the talent pool. Also nominating other non-notable ultimate entities that do not satisfy GNG. Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 13:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 13:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Seattle Riot (Ultimate) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Delete fails WP:ORG/WP:NSPORT. No relaible source, not a single source describing topic of the article. 4 of the sources seem spam. Drat8sub (talk) 13:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 13:43, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep (most) The articles are in a poor state, but it wasn't hard to find multiple independent secondary sources (which seem reliable enough) for most of them, which should satisfy WP:GNG. Just FYI regarding the national championships, there are financial barriers to playing any sport; the semi-professional leagues have non-overlapping schedules with the club season (and the dilution of the club talent pool is minimal, if anything its the other way around); most of the cited national championships happened before the existence of semi-professional leagues; the articles also cite worlds level championships. The three clubs here have won major international tournaments held on 4-year cycles, and to quote this line from WP:NSPORT: "that sports figures are likely to meet Wikipedia's basic standards of inclusion if they have, for example, participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest level" AZ 02:08, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Also, there were two prior AfDs 1 2 that were consensus keep. AZ 03:12, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
- To augment comment from AndyZ: The Championships are run by the National Governing Body for Sport in the US, part of the USOPC and World Flying Disc Federation, part of the IOC. These events are analogous to other smaller international sporting events which are part of the Olympic family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahgoff (talk • contribs) 21:15, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note this was the user's first edit. Ahgoff, I'm not sure how that six-degrees line of reasoning implies notability. Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 18:52, 4 June 2020 (UTC)