User talk:Guerillero

It seems that the AE report against me was from a sock puppet account

Admin: PatCheng who filed the complaint was clearly acting in bad faith, and was most likely a sock puppet of another editor (PCPP who had been permanently topic banned -User_talk:PCPP#Arbitration_enforcement_topic_ban:_Falun_Gong. Could you look into this? If it is confirmed, the AE report against me was a topic banned user who circumvented the banning. Thanks. Precious Stone (Marvin 2009) 23:25, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

@Marvin 2009: You need to provide explicit reasons that PatCheng is a sock of PCPP. Allegations are not enough. If you can not, continuing down this path will result in being blocked for personal attacks or violating your topic ban --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 01:46, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@Guerillero:Thanks for the response. Here is some of the evidence that I think warrants a further investigation:

PatCheng was an active editor in 2006. He was editing less frequently in summer of 2006, and stopped editing in September 2006. (After being silent for 13 years, he returned to editing suddenly in 2019 solely to report me to ANI and AE).

PCPP created his account in summer 2006, and made first edit in November 2006.

The editing interests of these accounts in 2006/2007 and later are extremely similar. Both editors focused extensively on video games and popular culture, and on Falun Gong, the Epoch Times, human rights in China. Both accounts seemed to edit from the same POV on topics related to China. Falun Gong and the Epoch Times are among the top five articles edited by both accounts.

• Analysis of PatCheng's contribution history: [1]
• Analysis of PCPP's contribution history: [2]

More revealing is that they also both edited the same unrelated pages and templates on video games. For example, they both edited Template:Blizzard Entertainment. Here are PatCheng's edits to that template:02:51, 4 April 2006, 02:45, 4 April 2006, and 01:08, 23 March 2006‎

And here are PCPP's edits:00:53, 4 August 2007‎‎, 22:44, 22 March 2007, and 19:29, 14 March 2007

To give another example, PCPP edited Template:Command & Conquer series: 01:48, 14 February 2008, and 01:47, 14 February 2008

Based on this, PatCheng edited the related page, Template:Command & Conquer

2006-03-21 00:22 Diff

2006-03-18 10:16 Diff

2006-03-18 07:13 Diff

2006-03-15 06:07 Diff

2006-03-14 07:18 Diff

It is highly unlikely that two unconnected accounts would both have an interest in China/human rights/Falun Gong, and in the Command and Conquer series and Blizzard Entertainment. And that one account would start editing within two months of the other account stopping. This can't be coincidence.

It seems more likely that PatCheng abandoned his old username in summer 2006 and adopted a new name PCPP, which he used to continue editing the same topics. After PCPP was permanently topic banned from editing on Falun Gong, he revived his old PatCheng account in 2019, when his only purpose was to get me banned.

Thanks for your attention!

Precious Stone (Marvin 2009) 18:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

@Marvin 2009: The 8 year break between PCP's ban and PatCheng's return is gets me. Further, none of the shared topics are that niche. Blizzard Entertainment's games are some of the best selling in the world and Command & Conquer has been published for over 20 years. If we are to believe that PatCheng is the user's real name, and interest in China wouldn't be strange. Also, I'm pretty sure that the accounts are not in the same time zone. --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 15:21, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Guerillero:Thanks for the response. The video games may be popular. But most editors do not edit template pages. And it's very strange that two unconnected accounts would edit the same video games template pages, AND that they would also both primary focus on editing Falun Gong/Epoch Times pages (where they exhibit the same POV), AND that one account is created when the other stops editing. Statistically, the chance this is coincidence is very low. And even though PCPP was topic banned from Falun Gong in 2011, he violated the ban as recently as 2016.

I would say your question regarding the 8 year break between PCP's ban and PatCheng's return is reasonable. However, even though PCPP was topic banned from Falun Gong in 2011, he violated the ban multiple times. Here are 3 examples: 1, 2 and in July 2016, PCPP was temporarily blocked by Admin Future Perfect at Sunrise due to continued breaches of the existing topic ban.

Plus, before PCPP’s topic ban in 2011, after PatCheng’s return in 2019, both of them worked with user Simonm223 regarding FLG related topic. Please check 13:28, 28 June 2009 (UTC) user Simonm223's message to PCPP about editing FLG article , PCPP left a message to Simonm223 on editing FLG article, and 00:21, 16 January 2010 PCPP reverted Falun Gong article to the state that Simonm223 edited.

Please also check: PatCheng's message to Simonm223 about the FLG related article ET.PatCheng was the first user who posted the NBC reports against ET on August 20 the same day when NBC released the report. On the same day, PatCheng notified user Simonm223 who subsequently went to the ET page and did many questionable editing after PatCheng's notice. Here are 2 examples: 1 and 2

It appears in 2009 and 2010 PCPP worked with Simonm223 in editing FLG topic, after 9 years, PatCheng worked with Simonm223 in editing FLG topic. Suppose PCPP and PatCheng are different users, it is hard to explain that PatCheng informed Simonm223 on his talk page regarding FLG related topic on Aug 20 2019, the same day he just started to post on ET after retiring 13 years? Precious Stone (Marvin 2009) 15:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Unarchiving on AE

This report was also archived without any action and this user has resumed edit warring against RfC[3] on the article where his disruption was more widespread than others since the archiving of the report.

Can you unarchive this report? Thanks. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 03:09, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Aman.kumar.goel: I closed the RfC and unarchived the AE thread --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 05:18, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

TFL notification

Hi, Guerillero. I'm just posting to let you know that List of presidents of Washington College – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for August 7. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 01:45, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

@Giants2008: Wikipedia:Today's featured list/August 2020 shows Community areas in Chicago in that slot --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 17:16, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Sometimes that page is slow to update without refreshing your cache. If you click here, you should find the Washington College list. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:07, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

@Giants2008: The summary looks great! --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 14:14, 22 July 2020 (UTC)