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:::::::That works for me in this particular case. Best wishes. [[User:Dormskirk|Dormskirk]] ([[User talk:Dormskirk|talk]]) 21:58, 2 August 2020 (UTC) |
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* I dont think it is just an "acute facility". That would imply that it does no elective work and doesnt manage long term conditions. It's best described as a large teaching hospital. Not all NHS hospitals do teaching. And there isnt really any such thing as a general hospital any more. [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 22:42, 2 August 2020 (UTC) |
* I dont think it is just an "acute facility". That would imply that it does no elective work and doesnt manage long term conditions. It's best described as a large teaching hospital. Not all NHS hospitals do teaching. And there isnt really any such thing as a general hospital any more. [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 22:42, 2 August 2020 (UTC) |
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** In mental health we call it an 'acute hospital' (opposed to as psychiatric hospital). It doesn't mean it doesn't do elective work. [[Special:Contributions/90.252.190.223|90.252.190.223]] ([[User talk:90.252.190.223|talk]]) 19:22, 5 August 2020 (UTC) |
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"Acute care facility" is such an Americanism. I've never heard that term used to describe English teaching hospitals. 90.252.190.223 (talk) 19:28, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- I have changed it. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 20:49, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- I changed it, but got quickly reverted by a human bot for being an IP address. We never refer to hospitals as 'facilities'. It's the facility that is the Americanism, not the acute. I've changed it to 'acute hospital' as that is we generally call these kind of places. We use teaching hospital further down, but that would do as well. 90.252.190.223 (talk) 21:56, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think it is helpful to (say) King's College Hospital is a ... hospital. It is a tautology i.e. saying of the same thing twice over in different words. Dormskirk (talk) 22:36, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- I can see your point but the American English is jarring. I've looked at University College Hospital and St George's Hospital and they both say "hospital is a teaching hospital', which is clumsy but feels more natural. 90.252.190.223 (talk) 01:08, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with your comments. I am not sure there is an obvious solution. I don't have strong objections to "hospital is a teaching hospital": I just don't think it helps the reader. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:09, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- We need a way of describing the type of hospital it is - it's a big, highly regarded acute teaching hospital, major trauma centre with heliport etc. It's not a general hospital, it's a big one. I think pretty much all NHS hospitals teaching tbh, perhaps major trauma centre - but does anyone know what that means, is it just jargon? It sounds better - shall we go with major trauma centre? 90.252.190.223 (talk) 21:43, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- That works for me in this particular case. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 21:58, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- We need a way of describing the type of hospital it is - it's a big, highly regarded acute teaching hospital, major trauma centre with heliport etc. It's not a general hospital, it's a big one. I think pretty much all NHS hospitals teaching tbh, perhaps major trauma centre - but does anyone know what that means, is it just jargon? It sounds better - shall we go with major trauma centre? 90.252.190.223 (talk) 21:43, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- I agree with your comments. I am not sure there is an obvious solution. I don't have strong objections to "hospital is a teaching hospital": I just don't think it helps the reader. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:09, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- I can see your point but the American English is jarring. I've looked at University College Hospital and St George's Hospital and they both say "hospital is a teaching hospital', which is clumsy but feels more natural. 90.252.190.223 (talk) 01:08, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think it is helpful to (say) King's College Hospital is a ... hospital. It is a tautology i.e. saying of the same thing twice over in different words. Dormskirk (talk) 22:36, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- I changed it, but got quickly reverted by a human bot for being an IP address. We never refer to hospitals as 'facilities'. It's the facility that is the Americanism, not the acute. I've changed it to 'acute hospital' as that is we generally call these kind of places. We use teaching hospital further down, but that would do as well. 90.252.190.223 (talk) 21:56, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- I dont think it is just an "acute facility". That would imply that it does no elective work and doesnt manage long term conditions. It's best described as a large teaching hospital. Not all NHS hospitals do teaching. And there isnt really any such thing as a general hospital any more. Rathfelder (talk) 22:42, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
- In mental health we call it an 'acute hospital' (opposed to as psychiatric hospital). It doesn't mean it doesn't do elective work. 90.252.190.223 (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2020 (UTC)