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Mahaveer Sankhlecha
Mahaveer Sankhlecha
Born	11 NOV 1991; Barmer, Rajasthan
Nationality	Indian
Occupation	Social Media handing
Years active	7 Years

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Early life and family

महावीर संखलेचा के माता-पिता का नाम (अशोक कुमार-पपूदेवी) है. महावीर इनके साथ बाड़मेर जिले में रहते है. इनकी २ बहिन है जो की इनसे छोटी है.

Biography

महावीर संखलेचा (जन्म ११ नवम्बर १९९१), बाड़मेर जिले हुआ. इन्होने अपनी पढ़ाई बेचलर ऑफ़ कम्प्यूटर एप्लीकेशन २०१२ में महर्षि दयानन्द सरस्वती युनिवर्सिटी अजमेर से पूर्ण की. २०१३ के बाद इन्होने सेलिब्रिटी मैनेजमेंट का कार्य किया। २०१६ से इन्होने सोशल मीडिया हैंडलिंग का कार्य शुभारंभ किया जिसमे कई सेलिब्रिटी और राजनैतिक नेताओ के सोशल प्लेटफॉर्म संभाले। इन्होने कई हैक हुवे पेजो को भी उन्हें सही वापस लोटाये। आज भी ये कई सोशल अकाउंट देखते है. ^[1] ^[2]

Other work

सेलिब्रिटी मैनेजमेंट के साथ सोसिअल मीडिया हैंडलिंग का काम करते है.

Awards and recognitions

Awards
Sr.No.	Award	Year
1	Barmer Ratn Award	2017
2	Barmer Ratn Award	2018
3	Best Celebrity Management	2019

References

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[1] बाड़मेर

[2] बेचलर ऑफ़ कम्प्यूटर एप्लीकेशन

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-== Proposal:  Discourage editors from moving an article and then editing the redirect as a [[WP:BOLD]] action. ==
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-Recently, an editor moved [[Gas van]] to [[Nazi gas van]] as part of a [[WP:BOLD]] split, then immediately edited the redirect into a DAB page between that and a new [[Soviet gas van]] page they'd created.  There was no prior discussion (and no hint that anyone was even contemplating this.)  Because of how moves work, it's impossible to reverse this action without involving an admin (and reasonably speaking many admins are likely to demur from deleting a redirect if there's no clear consensus backing them.)  This is clearly undesirable and goes outside the realm of what [[WP:BOLD]] is meant for - the whole purpose of this policy is that bold actions can be reverted if someone finds them objectionable (so for normal edits, you don't need to worry too much about hypothetical objections and can just be bold, then revert and talk things out if there's an objection.) Using it to justify an edit that ''can't'' be easily reverted doesn't make sense.  I think it was an honest mistake (it's possible the editor was even unaware that editing the redirect made their [[WP:BOLD]] action irreversible to normal users), but either way, I feel that this policy ought to specifically discourage this and warn people against it; it's fairly silly, and against the principle of [[WP:BRD]], for a move that had no consensus at the time to then have to go to [[WP:RM]] to get reverted, even if someone objects immediately. --[[User:Aquillion|Aquillion]] ([[User talk:Aquillion|talk]]) 08:39, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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-:Aquillion clearly hasn't been following the discussion on the article talk page. There has been a long running dispute which has resulted an editor topic banned and numerous reports to [[WP:AE]]. The split was done during an open case at [[WP:AE]], and I annouced the split to the admins there[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=925554149&oldid=925550059].  I sought to short circuit this spiral of conflict and the split resulted in the resolution of yet another AE case[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=925828828&oldid=925824749]. Aquillion appears more concerned with the application of [[WP:BOLD]], which is an editing guideline, while the exceptional circumstance of this content dispute merited [[WP:IGNORE]], which is policy. --[[User:Nug|Nug]] ([[User talk:Nug|talk]]) 12:17, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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-::The details of the specific precipitating case are not so important (I specifically didn't go into detail on it because it doesn't matter.)  The important question is whether we want people to cite [[WP:BOLD]] when moving an article and then editing the redirect - I think that (even if you feel your edits were justified or had some consensus somewhere which I didn't see) we ''definitely'' don't want to encourage that. Even if [[WP:BOLD]] is just a guideline, it should be a guideline that encourages people to do reasonable and not unreasonable things. --[[User:Aquillion|Aquillion]] ([[User talk:Aquillion|talk]]) 17:46, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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-:::Aquillion, I'm not convinced. I've done this myself quite often (see e.g. the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wapel&action=history history of Wapel]) and my opinion is that such edits should not be discouraged. My argument is that there exists a larger amount of cases where such edits (even without prior discussion) are an improvement of Wikipedia, than the amount of cases where a revert (with admin involment) is preferable. --[[User:Cyfal|Cyfal]] ([[User talk:Cyfal|talk]]) 16:45, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
+| caption       = Mahaveer Sankhlecha
+| birth_date    = 11 NOV 1991<!-- {{Birth date and age|YYYY|MM|DD}} for living people supply only the year with {{Birth year and age|YYYY}} unless the exact date is already widely published, as per [[WP:DOB]]. For people who have died, use {{Birth date|YYYY|MM|DD}}. -->
-== James Gandolfini played Jessie in American Story-The Battle for Athens, 1946 Athens, Tennessee ==
+| birth_place   = Barmer, Rajasthan
+| nationality   = Indian
+| occupation    = Social Media handing
+| years_active  = 7 Years
+}}
+==Early life and family==
-Just finished watching American Story-The Battle of Athens.  Playing the role of a disabled WW2 veteran, Jessie, just back from the European front.  Jessie is James Gandolfini(of Soprano's fame).  Nowhere on his wikipedia page does it list his role in this film.  His name also wasn't in the final credits, which is quite strange as he played a significant role in the film.
+महावीर संखलेचा के माता-पिता का नाम (अशोक कुमार-पपूदेवी) है. महावीर इनके साथ बाड़मेर जिले में रहते है. इनकी २ बहिन है जो की इनसे छोटी है.
-Here is a YouTube video of the film:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-Dsg4X4Dk&feature=youtu.be  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.209.166.175|173.209.166.175]] ([[User talk:173.209.166.175#top|talk]]) 04:25, 2 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-:The correct place to post this comment is [[Talk:James Gandolfini]]. I have copied it there for you. – [[User:Jonesey95|Jonesey95]] ([[User talk:Jonesey95|talk]]) 04:50, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
+==Biography==
+महावीर संखलेचा (जन्म ११ नवम्बर १९९१), [[Barmer,_Rajasthan|बाड़मेर]] जिले हुआ. इन्होने अपनी पढ़ाई [[Bachelor_of_Computer_Application|बेचलर ऑफ़ कम्प्यूटर एप्लीकेशन]] २०१२ में महर्षि दयानन्द सरस्वती युनिवर्सिटी अजमेर से पूर्ण की. २०१३ के बाद इन्होने सेलिब्रिटी मैनेजमेंट का कार्य किया। २०१६ से इन्होने सोशल मीडिया हैंडलिंग का कार्य शुभारंभ किया जिसमे कई सेलिब्रिटी और राजनैतिक नेताओ के सोशल प्लेटफॉर्म संभाले। इन्होने कई हैक हुवे पेजो को भी उन्हें सही वापस लोटाये। आज भी ये कई सोशल अकाउंट देखते है. <ref>[[Barmer,_Rajasthan|बाड़मेर]]</ref> <ref>[[Bachelor_of_Computer_Application|बेचलर ऑफ़ कम्प्यूटर एप्लीकेशन]]</ref>
+==Other work==
-== Bolder nutshell ==
+सेलिब्रिटी मैनेजमेंट के साथ सोसिअल मीडिया हैंडलिंग का काम करते है.
+==Awards and recognitions==
-I re-read the nutshell, {{tq|Please feel free to make improvements to Wikipedia in a fair and accurate manner.}}, and I was sure I remembered it being more inspiring than that and so I looked at the page history and saw {{U|Moxy}} changed it in February 2018 with [[Special:Diff/823805958|this edit]]. It used to just read: {{tq|Please feel free to make improvements to Wikipedia.}} A while before that we actually said {{tq|<big>'''Go for it!'''</big>}}. This was changed to {{tq|Don't let bureaucracy stop you making improvements to the encyclopedia}} by {{U|Pigsonthewing}} in January 2016 in [[Special:Diff/701313576|this edit]]. Long ago we also had {{tq|If you see something that can be improved, improve it!}} So far as I can see, there was no discussion leading to these changes or other edits in relation to it (feel free to point me to any context I missed).
+{| class="wikitable"
+|+ Awards
+|-
+! Sr.No. !! Award !! Year
+|-
+| 1|| '''Barmer Ratn Award'''|| 2017
+|-
+| 2|| '''Barmer Ratn Award'''|| 2018
+|-
+| 3|| '''Best Celebrity Management'''|| 2019
+|}
+==References==
-I think the nutshell iterations have actually gone from best to worst. The page "Be bold" shouldn't open with the text "fair and accurate manner". The purpose of the page as I see it is to encourage readers to become editors, or to encourage new editors to just start editing things rather than overthinking it. You don't have to know all the rules to make an edit—if it's a net positive then someone else can help with the details. This is the message we should be pushing, not "if you're 100% certain that your changes are fair and accurate then you are permitted ..."
-I like {{tq|If you see something that can be improved, improve it!}} It's the message of the page. The site is already so daunting for newcomers, with our obtuse referencing requirements, incomprehensible wikitext and plethora of required policies and guidelines. If someone's being linked to this page then it's probably to encourage them to... well... be bold. So it should tell them to do so. The later parts of the page tells them when this isn't a good idea. I also like {{tq|<big>'''Go for it!'''</big>}} as clear and simple. My third option would be {{tq|Please feel free to make improvements to Wikipedia.}} Unfortunately, I actively prefer nothing to the current nutshell and I feel the "bureacuracy" wording is well-intended but isn't quite as general as the others.
+==External links==
-I suspect this page has a very eclectic list of watchers so I might start an RfC if we can draw up some plausible options (including, of course, the current version if it's what the community prefer). New suggestions and all other feedback would be helpful. — [[User:Bilorv|Bilorv]] ('''[[User talk:Bilorv|<span style="color:purple">talk</span>]]''') 22:40, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
-:Hello Bilorv great to see someone concerned with what potential editors will see. Don't think you will find a talk on the changes as they  evolved over time by good standing long term editors all done in good faith. For my  addition it was simply to complete and overall thought/summary of the pages content and what is seen at pages like [[Wikipedia:Purpose]]. I would have no problem with it removed or your suggestion of  simply doing the "go for it" approach. Be bold lets see what happens..--<span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User_talk:Moxy|Moxy]]</span> <span style="color:red">🍁</span> 23:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
-:"Go for it!" is both trite, and an idiom whose meaning is likely to not be clear to a number of our readers (and potential editors), especially those whose first language is not English. As I said in the summary of the edit quoted: {{tq|"nutshell is for a concise, clear summary - not a slogan"}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 23:14, 8 May 2020 (UTC)