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*'''Speedy keep'''. This nomination is so erroneous, citing [[Wikipedia:Notability (biographies)]], which applies only to actual living people, on a page whose subject is a fictional character, giving rise to serious question as to whether the nominator has read ad understood the article and guideline in question. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong!]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 04:24, 17 August 2020 (UTC) |
*'''Speedy keep'''. This nomination is so erroneous, citing [[Wikipedia:Notability (biographies)]], which applies only to actual living people, on a page whose subject is a fictional character, giving rise to serious question as to whether the nominator has read ad understood the article and guideline in question. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong!]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 04:24, 17 August 2020 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep''' - I agree with {{u|Hullaballoo Wolfowitz}}. The nom has misrepresented the first nomination. Six editors voted with four voting to keep. Nowhere was it stated {{tq|'a character that appeared in 83 episodes is notable'}}. In fact the character is a major character in two television series that spanned 158 episodes and a TV movie, as well as having appeared in crossover episodes of other TV shows. Neither series had 83 episodes so I'm not sure where that figure was plucked from. --[[User:AussieLegend|'''<span style="color:#008751;">Aussie</span><span style="color:#fcd116;">Legend</span>''']] ([[User talk:AussieLegend#top|<big>✉</big>]]) 08:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC) |
* '''Keep''' - I agree with {{u|Hullaballoo Wolfowitz}}. The nom has misrepresented the first nomination. Six editors voted with four voting to keep. Nowhere was it stated {{tq|'a character that appeared in 83 episodes is notable'}}. In fact the character is a major character in two television series that spanned 158 episodes and a TV movie, as well as having appeared in crossover episodes of other TV shows. Neither series had 83 episodes so I'm not sure where that figure was plucked from. --[[User:AussieLegend|'''<span style="color:#008751;">Aussie</span><span style="color:#fcd116;">Legend</span>''']] ([[User talk:AussieLegend#top|<big>✉</big>]]) 08:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Redirect''' - Mistaken guideline aside, the nomination is correct that this currently fails to establish independent notability through real world information-providing reliable sources. The keep !votes in the previous AfD did rely on all "it's notable" claims without any backing, so sources should be provided if those claims are to be made again. The number of appearances are completely irrelevant to establishing notability. [[User:TTN|TTN]] ([[User talk:TTN|talk]]) 12:10, 17 August 2020 (UTC) |
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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (biographies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant English-language coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. The keep from 2013 was because of the two votes, one stating that 'a character that appeared in 83 episodes is notable', 'keep per' and oh, a clear personal attack on the nom... Sigh. I think our standards are a bit higher now. (Oh, this is also totally unreferenced (outside one footnote to a single episode of the show)... and pure WP:OR/WP:PLOT). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:47, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:47, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 02:53, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. This nomination is so erroneous, citing Wikipedia:Notability (biographies), which applies only to actual living people, on a page whose subject is a fictional character, giving rise to serious question as to whether the nominator has read ad understood the article and guideline in question. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 04:24, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - I agree with Hullaballoo Wolfowitz. The nom has misrepresented the first nomination. Six editors voted with four voting to keep. Nowhere was it stated
'a character that appeared in 83 episodes is notable'
. In fact the character is a major character in two television series that spanned 158 episodes and a TV movie, as well as having appeared in crossover episodes of other TV shows. Neither series had 83 episodes so I'm not sure where that figure was plucked from. --AussieLegend (✉) 08:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC) - Redirect - Mistaken guideline aside, the nomination is correct that this currently fails to establish independent notability through real world information-providing reliable sources. The keep !votes in the previous AfD did rely on all "it's notable" claims without any backing, so sources should be provided if those claims are to be made again. The number of appearances are completely irrelevant to establishing notability. TTN (talk) 12:10, 17 August 2020 (UTC)