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*'''Redirect''' to [[Legion of Super-Villains]], no indication the sources in the article provide significant coverage, they are used to back up in-universe information and therefore there is no indication they contribute to GNG. Sources provided above are just handwaves, no indication of SIGCOV. Article also currently fails [[WP:NFICTION]]. [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]] ([[User talk:Devonian Wombat|talk]]) 11:59, 10 September 2020 (UTC) |
*'''Redirect''' to [[Legion of Super-Villains]], no indication the sources in the article provide significant coverage, they are used to back up in-universe information and therefore there is no indication they contribute to GNG. Sources provided above are just handwaves, no indication of SIGCOV. Article also currently fails [[WP:NFICTION]]. [[User:Devonian Wombat|Devonian Wombat]] ([[User talk:Devonian Wombat|talk]]) 11:59, 10 September 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Speedy keep'''. Another cookie-cutter nomination from am editor who refuses to consider the extensive array of relevant print sources. It's a measure of the nom's carelessness that he suggests the wrong comics franchise as a potential redirect target. The nominator also persistently misunderstands NFICTION, which quite clearly includes "development" and "design" as appropriate topics of discussion; much of the article relates to the development of the fictional character and its incorporation into the overall design of DC's fictional universe. Underneath all the verbiage, this is little better than an IDONTLIKEIT nomination. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong!]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 01:43, 11 September 2020 (UTC) |
*'''Speedy keep'''. Another cookie-cutter nomination from am editor who refuses to consider the extensive array of relevant print sources. It's a measure of the nom's carelessness that he suggests the wrong comics franchise as a potential redirect target. The nominator also persistently misunderstands NFICTION, which quite clearly includes "development" and "design" as appropriate topics of discussion; much of the article relates to the development of the fictional character and its incorporation into the overall design of DC's fictional universe. Underneath all the verbiage, this is little better than an IDONTLIKEIT nomination. [[User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong!]] ([[User talk:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz|talk]]) 01:43, 11 September 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Redirect''' - If sources exist, they should be presented and be given a brief summary of the context they provide. That has not been done. The sources in the article do not provide anything. This fails [[WP:GNG]] and does not fulfill the standards of [[WP:WAF]]. [[User:TTN|TTN]] ([[User talk:TTN|talk]]) 14:19, 11 September 2020 (UTC) |
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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. While this article does cite some non-primary sources, it seems they do not go beyond plot and list of appearances. I am not sure where this could be redirected too, but feel free to offer any suggestions (Legion of Super-Villains, perhaps? But group articles like this are notoriously bad at being notable too... maybe some List of Superman supporting characters or such?). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Keep The article already contains some reasonable sources and there are plenty more out there including The Encyclopedia of Super Villains; DC Comics Super-Villains; DC Comics Encyclopedia; The Supervillain Book: The Evil Side of Comics and Hollywood; &c. Yet another case of WP:IGNORINGATD, WP:NEXIST and WP:NOTCLEANUP. Our policy WP:ATD states that "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page" so improvement is what we should do, not deletion. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:51, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- And how do you propose to expand this with the sources you found? Our fancrufty plot coverage is already more extensive than what I see in those books. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:13, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Legion of Super-Villains, no indication the sources in the article provide significant coverage, they are used to back up in-universe information and therefore there is no indication they contribute to GNG. Sources provided above are just handwaves, no indication of SIGCOV. Article also currently fails WP:NFICTION. Devonian Wombat (talk) 11:59, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy keep. Another cookie-cutter nomination from am editor who refuses to consider the extensive array of relevant print sources. It's a measure of the nom's carelessness that he suggests the wrong comics franchise as a potential redirect target. The nominator also persistently misunderstands NFICTION, which quite clearly includes "development" and "design" as appropriate topics of discussion; much of the article relates to the development of the fictional character and its incorporation into the overall design of DC's fictional universe. Underneath all the verbiage, this is little better than an IDONTLIKEIT nomination. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 01:43, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect - If sources exist, they should be presented and be given a brief summary of the context they provide. That has not been done. The sources in the article do not provide anything. This fails WP:GNG and does not fulfill the standards of WP:WAF. TTN (talk) 14:19, 11 September 2020 (UTC)