User talk:Chetsford

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A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Thank you for closing the RfC on People's Mujahedin of Iran. I suspect it wasn't easy to go through all the material, so I just wanted to show my appreciation for your thorough evaluation. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 19:18, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hideaway (U.S. Senate)

Hi, if you are able to view a Newspapers.com clipping, you should clip it and post it as open access. Considering that you are quoting those bombshell allegations against President Johnson and Congressmen keeping mistresses in their hideaways, you can assume that most readers would want to see the source. I clipped and formatted the Newspapers.com reference for you. Please do this in future. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:13, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for handling the clipping, Yoninah, but I'm not sure what's "bombshell" about a 30 year old story that repeats the historical consensus of Johnson's personal life. Chetsford (talk) 23:07, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Well, it was news to me. BTW this is a really fun subject. There are a lot of books written on it, though most are only available in snippet view. I added a bunch of references. Thanks for coming up with these U.S. government themes. Yoninah (talk) 23:31, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Closing at Talk:Territorial evolution of Russia#RFC about the spelling of a specific place name to use here

Hi. Thanks for closing the RFC.

Why is “longstanding usage” privileged, and which guideline does this follow? The guidelines and normal practice afford primacy to the main article title, Kyiv, as is stated, for example, in MOS:CAPS#Place names, “In general, other articles should refer to places by the names which are used in the articles on those places, according to the rules described at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names). If a different name is appropriate in a given historical or other context, then . . .” (my emphasis). Historical usage is an exception.

And your comment about this being “consistent with the close of a related RfC” seems backwards. That other RFC is recommending an exception to the normal usage of the main-article title. Since the RFC showed no consensus favouring the exception, then the normal rule applies. Any privilege of “longstanding usage” was overturned by the consensus move to Kyiv, which led directly to that RFC and this one.

(Additionally, the article in question arguably does not meet the criteria of the other RFC, as it is in its terms neither an “unambiguously historical” nor “an edge case” since its scope explicitly includes the period after both 1991 and 1995, as stated in the introduction. It is a survey article that includes previous history to the present, like, e.g., History of Kyiv) —Michael Z. 03:58, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

RfC closure

Thanks for taking the time to go through the RfC and closing it here. You said that only "three are opposed" to the proposal, but I count 6: Mhhossein,[1]Pahlevun,[2] Ali Ahwazi[3], Jushyosaha604,[4] Sa.vakilian,[5] and myself[6][7].

Secondly, I feel the RfC was closed in the middle of a discussion (even though I know it was well past the 30 days). For example, on 27 November I argued that the original proposal's wording was contrary to MOS:WEASEL. I was hoping to get some responses to that, yet you closed the RfC on November 29. Would you please re-open the RfC and let that discussion conclude?VR _talk 11:12, 30 November 2020 (UTC)