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Thanks for your advices. I have also replied in Elche's talk page. --[[Special:Contributions/31.4.227.63|31.4.227.63]] ([[User talk:31.4.227.63|talk]]) 12:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC) |
Thanks for your advices. I have also replied in Elche's talk page. --[[Special:Contributions/31.4.227.63|31.4.227.63]] ([[User talk:31.4.227.63|talk]]) 12:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Central Park jogger case == |
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In regards to the [Central Park jogger case], you state: |
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"Because the case is discussed by reliable sources as an instance of possible racial profiling, ..." |
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Except, the case is discussed as an "instance of possible racial profiling" by the police of the original suspects. It is NOT discussed as racial profiling of the women who were attacked for being white, as they were of various races as noted in the article's introduction. |
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"... it is relevant and neutral to note that The Jogger was white, as well as to note that the alleged perpetrators were Black or Latino." |
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It's not neutral. NPOV would be not citing any races. |
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Why it is relevant? Some of other women who were attacked and raped weren't white. So, why must she be singled out as being a /white/ victim of rape and not just a victim of rape? Is there somehow a difference is she was a /black/ victim of rape or /Hispanic/ victim etc? She wasn't the only white victim and not all of the victims where white. So, what is the revelance of mentioning race here? As noted in the article, |
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"Like the defendants in the case, three of the victims were Black or Latino." |
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There were 8 women who were raped for this case. 5 victims were white. 3 weren't, being "Black or Latino". So, this wasn't an instance of racial profiling of white women to rape them, nor was it purely a racially-based hate crime against white women. Race wasn't a motivating factor for the perpetrator. If it isn't an instance of racial profiling of white women to commit rape, then mentioning that one of the women who were attacked was white has no relevance, except to incite race baiting. |
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In other words, race only needs to be mentioned in regards to the people who were falsely accused (minorities) by the (presumed, predominantly white) police based upon their minority race. The races of the victims are irrelevant - being of multiple races. |
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I don't know why the other user is so heavy about the climate of my city if he first used an unrealiable site and also unsourced data.
I have tried to explain why is he wrong (the data was there from 2015 by the way) and I have also added useful information about the climate of Elche made by the Universidad Miguel Hernández which is the university of the city of Elche. I don't know why he wanted to change that data and I kindly explained why he shouldn't.
I have also received bad mood messages and he called me dumb in one of the edit summaries, I just don't understand why he changed 5 year old data and he just reverts any data he doesn't like, even if I kindly explain why that data is actually closer to reality as Elche doesn't have any long term recording station. He should be more kind when editing, insults are not necessary. --31.4.227.63 (talk) 03:34, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your advices. I have also replied in Elche's talk page. --31.4.227.63 (talk) 12:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Central Park jogger case
In regards to the [Central Park jogger case], you state:
"Because the case is discussed by reliable sources as an instance of possible racial profiling, ..."
Except, the case is discussed as an "instance of possible racial profiling" by the police of the original suspects. It is NOT discussed as racial profiling of the women who were attacked for being white, as they were of various races as noted in the article's introduction.
"... it is relevant and neutral to note that The Jogger was white, as well as to note that the alleged perpetrators were Black or Latino."
It's not neutral. NPOV would be not citing any races.
Why it is relevant? Some of other women who were attacked and raped weren't white. So, why must she be singled out as being a /white/ victim of rape and not just a victim of rape? Is there somehow a difference is she was a /black/ victim of rape or /Hispanic/ victim etc? She wasn't the only white victim and not all of the victims where white. So, what is the revelance of mentioning race here? As noted in the article,
"Like the defendants in the case, three of the victims were Black or Latino."
There were 8 women who were raped for this case. 5 victims were white. 3 weren't, being "Black or Latino". So, this wasn't an instance of racial profiling of white women to rape them, nor was it purely a racially-based hate crime against white women. Race wasn't a motivating factor for the perpetrator. If it isn't an instance of racial profiling of white women to commit rape, then mentioning that one of the women who were attacked was white has no relevance, except to incite race baiting.
In other words, race only needs to be mentioned in regards to the people who were falsely accused (minorities) by the (presumed, predominantly white) police based upon their minority race. The races of the victims are irrelevant - being of multiple races.