User contributions for Thucydides411

23 October 2023

• 20:0320:03, 23 October 2023 diff hist −1,191‎ IfNotNow ‎ Changed "far-left" to "left-wing", based on majority of news coverage using the latter term. See talk. Tags: Reverted 2017 wikitext editor

8 October 2023

• 12:4312:43, 8 October 2023 diff hist −1,513‎ China Scholarship Council ‎ Undid revision 1178763535 by Amigao (talk) Using US government for this type of claim is inappropriate, even with attribution (which was done insufficiently anyways - the claim was still put in Wikivoice). Tags: Undo Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

5 October 2023

• 06:1706:17, 5 October 2023 diff hist −1,523‎ China Scholarship Council ‎ Remove primary-sourced content, and content sourced to US government body previously noted as unreliable for this subject. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

22 February 2023

• 09:0809:08, 22 February 2023 diff hist +242‎ China Scholarship Council ‎No edit summary Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 09:0609:06, 22 February 2023 diff hist +203‎ China Scholarship Council ‎No edit summary Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

21 February 2023

• 21:5521:55, 21 February 2023 diff hist −2,369‎ China Scholarship Council ‎ Reverting re-addition of claim about pledges to the Communist Party. This claim is not really supported by the one reliable source (DN). The other two sources are unreliable, and should not be used, regardless. See talk for more detail. Tags: Manual revert Reverted 2017 wikitext editor
• 09:2809:28, 21 February 2023 diff hist −1,849‎ China Scholarship Council ‎ Removed claims sourced to the US government. Previous editor who removed this content was correct that these claims are poorly sourced (and indeed, they appear to be factually incorrect). Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

20 January 2023

• 18:0118:01, 20 January 2023 diff hist −208‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Remove weasel-worded, opinionated sentence. We can just go directly to statements by other governments / parliaments. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 17:5917:59, 20 January 2023 diff hist +19‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Cannot claim this in Wikivoice Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 17:5817:58, 20 January 2023 diff hist +1,859‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Reinsert paragraph mistakenly removed in last edit. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 17:5617:56, 20 January 2023 diff hist −1,056‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Include more neutral description of what is are very controversial claims, and note doubts among experts on transplantation. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 17:4817:48, 20 January 2023 diff hist +8‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ POV issue: these claims are heavily disputed by reliable sources. This is not reflected in the article, which instead presents the most extreme - and least evidenced - claims as if they were fact. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

11 December 2022

• 13:4113:41, 11 December 2022 diff hist 0‎ ByteDance ‎ Undid revision 1126760628 by Amigao (talk) the claimed abuses in question are generally allegations. There is a wide gap between what is established and what is claimed. Tags: Undo Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

9 December 2022

• 22:4222:42, 9 December 2022 diff hist +32‎ ByteDance ‎ →‎Surveillance and censorship concerns: Actually, there's no reason to even use the inflammatory term "genocide" here. The use of the term is already contentious at "Uyghur genocide", given that Wikipedia's position is that we cannot claim there is a genocide. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 22:3922:39, 9 December 2022 diff hist −4‎ ByteDance ‎ Undid revision 1126227045 by Amigao (talk) In fact, an RfC at "Uyghur genocide" found that the sources so not support a factual claim that there is a genocide, and the we cannot make such a claim in Wikivoice. "The ongoing genocide" is a Wikivoice claim that there is a genocide, and therefore directly violates the RfC result. Tags: Undo Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 09:2409:24, 9 December 2022 diff hist +4‎ The Grayzone ‎ →‎Content: Again, cannot claim existence of genocide in Wikivoice (as an RfC at "Uyghur genocide" article concluded). Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 09:2309:23, 9 December 2022 diff hist −1,415‎ The Grayzone ‎ Cannot claim in Wikivoice that there is a Uyghur genocide. This has been addressed at "Uyghur genocide", where an RfC determined we cannot claim existence of genocide in this case, and at "genocide denial", where there was a discussion of the fact that claim of "genocide denial" is a Wikivoice statement that genocide is taking place. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

4 December 2022

• 12:0912:09, 4 December 2022 diff hist −65‎ ByteDance ‎ →‎Corporate affairs: Again, there's no reason for a separate sub-subheading for this one paragraph. Additionally, "Golden share" is already linked in the text. Tags: Manual revert Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

3 December 2022

• 21:1121:11, 3 December 2022 diff hist −35‎ ByteDance ‎ Undid revision 1125406117 by Amigao (talk) There's no reason for a separate subheading here. Tags: Undo Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 21:0521:05, 3 December 2022 diff hist −10‎ ByteDance ‎ →‎Funding and ownership: Specify size of stake Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 21:0421:04, 3 December 2022 diff hist −24‎ ByteDance ‎ →‎Corporate affairs: I couldn't find "state backing" in the sources, so this somewhat loaded term appears to be OR. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 21:0021:00, 3 December 2022 diff hist −4‎ ByteDance ‎ →‎Surveillance and censorship concerns: "Ongoing Uyghur genocide" is a Wikivoice statement that there is a genocide. As an RfC at the article "Uyghur genocide" concluded, we cannot make such a statement in Wikivoice, because the description of events in Xinjiang as "genocide" is heavily contested. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 17:3717:37, 3 December 2022 diff hist −47‎ ByteDance ‎ There was agreement on the talk page previously that this claim is OR and should be removed. Tag: 2017 wikitext editor
• 17:3117:31, 3 December 2022 diff hist −3,113‎ ByteDance ‎ This coverage in the lede is way out of proportion to these subjects' weight in the article. The lede is supposed to summarize the main points from the article body. These subjects are barely discussed in the article body ("Uyghur genocide" isn't discussed at all, unsubstantiated US government allegations of surveillance are briefly mentioned). The use of "ongoing Uyghur genocide" also violates consensus at "Uyghur genoicde" article that we can't claim existence of genocide in Wikivoice. Tag: 2017 wikitext editor

1 October 2022

• 11:1211:12, 1 October 2022 diff hist +8‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Note dispute over article POV: article presents claims of organ harvesting that are heavily contested by numerous experts was if they were certain, and deliberately excludes contrary reporting. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

30 September 2022

• 20:0120:01, 30 September 2022 diff hist +19‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Again, cannot make these heavily contested statements in Wikivoice. Wikipedia is not an advocacy website. Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 19:5919:59, 30 September 2022 diff hist +554‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Undid revision 1113297116 by Kleinpecan (talk) Revert restoration of POV claims, in Wikivoice, that organ harvesting has been established, and inappropriate removal of reporting that casts doubt on these claims. Tags: Undo Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 19:5219:52, 30 September 2022 diff hist +105‎ Persecution of Uyghurs in China ‎ Undid revision 1113291344 by Hobomok (talk) There is a dispute over the neutrality of this section - particularly the title and the main article link, which are intended to imply, in Wikivoice, that there is a genocide. The previous RfC ruled that we cannot make such a statement. Tags: Undo Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

26 September 2022

• 18:4918:49, 26 September 2022 diff hist +16‎ Persecution of Uyghurs in China ‎ →‎Denial: This is an obvious violation of neutrality, and of the RfC that concluded that we cannot call this a "genocide" in Wikivoice. Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 18:4418:44, 26 September 2022 diff hist −7‎ Persecution of Uyghurs in China ‎ →‎Chinese government response: "Genocide denial" is a term that describes denial of widely acknowledged genocides. Use of the term strongly implies, in Wikivoice, that there is a genocide against the Uyghurs. There was an RfC that concluded that we cannot label this a "genocide" in Wikivoice. Use of the term "genocide denial" appears to be an attempt to circumvent the RfC. Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 15:3715:37, 26 September 2022 diff hist −1,416‎ The Grayzone ‎ "Denial of the Uyghur genocide" implies, in Wikivoice, that there is a genocide. See RfC at Uyghur Genocide article, which resulted in decision that we cannot claim, in Wikivoice, that there is a genocide. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

25 September 2022

• 15:5415:54, 25 September 2022 diff hist −13‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ The independence of the tribunal has been called into question, given its apparent ties to Falun Gong. Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 15:5315:53, 25 September 2022 diff hist −212‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Remove unnecessary editorializing, beginning with "However". Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 15:5115:51, 25 September 2022 diff hist +763‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎No edit summary Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit
• 15:4215:42, 25 September 2022 diff hist +16‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Cannot put this in Wikivoice as a fact. These are extremely controversial claims. Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

4 September 2022

• 08:1708:17, 4 September 2022 diff hist −11‎ Bi Sheng ‎ Undid revision 1089663233 by 14.201.180.65 (talk) rv vandalism. Tags: Undo Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

22 August 2022

• 08:3808:38, 22 August 2022 diff hist −177‎ Day ‎ →‎Variations in length: The Earth-Moon system is not in the Hubble flow. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

25 July 2022

• 13:2113:21, 25 July 2022 diff hist −362‎ Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention ‎ →‎Operations: Removed sentence that unduly emphasizes lab leak conspiracy theory. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

24 July 2022

• 09:1909:19, 24 July 2022 diff hist +3,068‎ The 1619 Project ‎ Restoring (with some modifications) references to critical interviews which sparked the historical debate, and which have been very widely commented on in secondary sources. Along with the letter to the Times and the Politico essay, these are the probably most prominent and commented-on criticisms. Removing them because some dislike the politics of the source is wrong. Tags: Reverted 2017 wikitext editor

21 July 2022

• 22:1422:14, 21 July 2022 diff hist −1,190‎ The 1619 Project ‎ This has been gone over many times on talk page. These interviews were hugely influential in the debate over The 1619 Project (they essentially kicked off the debate among historians), and where they occurred has been widely discussed in secondary sources. Tags: Manual revert Reverted 2017 wikitext editor

30 May 2022

• 05:1705:17, 30 May 2022 diff hist +50‎ Adrian Zenz ‎ Undid revision 1090491354 by Mhawk10 (talk) RV restoration of POV text. Obviously cannot claim "genocide" in Wikivoice, and fact that VoC is a US govt think tank is relevant. Tags: Undo Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

29 May 2022

• 14:3814:38, 29 May 2022 diff hist +50‎ Adrian Zenz ‎ NPOV: 1. Cannot put claim of genocide in Wikivoice. 2. Connection of think tank to US government. Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

28 May 2022

• 12:0912:09, 28 May 2022 diff hist −702‎ Chinese government response to COVID-19 ‎ →‎Initial response: This has never been verified, and is highly dubious. These claims were made in an SCMP article early on in the pandemic, but do not appear in any subsequent investigation I'm aware of (e.g., the WHO mission report, Worobey et al. 2022). Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

23 May 2022

• 08:0908:09, 23 May 2022 diff hist −21‎ Useful idiot ‎ Undid revision 1089343569 by Spafky (talk) We decided earlier not to include every new accusation or recent event in this article Tags: Undo Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

20 May 2022

• 22:1922:19, 20 May 2022 diff hist −326‎ The 1619 Project ‎ Restore long-standing text, with unnecessary digression on politics of outlet removed. Tags: Reverted 2017 wikitext editor
• 21:4121:41, 20 May 2022 diff hist −21‎ Organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners in China ‎ Undid revision 1088797509 by Mhawk10 (talk) Organ harvesting is not well established, and Tags: Undo Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

19 May 2022

• 11:4311:43, 19 May 2022 diff hist +81‎ The 1619 Project ‎ Last I checked, ballot presence of the authors did not determine notability of a publication. NYT has zero ballot presence, as far as I'm aware. These interviews are of some of the most highly recognized historians of the Revolution, and have been widely cited in other publications. The venue of the interviews has also been widely commented on in other media. Tags: Manual revert Reverted 2017 wikitext editor

29 April 2022

• 19:5019:50, 29 April 2022 diff hist +1,304‎ Useful idiot ‎ Undid revision 1085237969 by Delta 1105 (talk) rv unexplained removal of content that has long been consensus. Tags: Undo Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

26 April 2022

• 20:4220:42, 26 April 2022 diff hist +9‎ Government of the Ukrainian People's Republic in exile ‎ "Bolshevik aggression", etc. This article needs a through rewrite for NPOV. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit

25 April 2022

• 19:2819:28, 25 April 2022 diff hist +5‎ Putinversteher ‎ →‎The scope of the term and its usage: Die Welt is one of the most prominent conservative newspapers in Germany. It is market liberal (meaning it is generally skeptical of government regulation of markets), but calling it a "liberal newspaper" will confuse many readers. In American English, "liberal" means something very different. Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Advanced mobile edit