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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 26 August 2020 and 2 December 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Ethanpak (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Beril gur, Rachelkmoy, Go23bears, Yenxle.

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I am currently working on this article. Ethanpak (talk) 00:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Evaluation : This article is thoroughly written and descriptive. The sources are credible and there are no bias constructed in this article. As I read through, I don't see anything else to critique. (User:Yenxle) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yenxle (talk • contribs) 04:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am thinking of adding a section about the possible solutions to political polarization, as that is currently missing in the Wikipedia article. Additionally, I also would like to add the current political issues that are most polarizing in our country, for more context and real life application/examples of this polarization. The following is a list of sources I have compiled that I plan on using:

1. "What Are the Solutions to Political Polarization?". Greater Good. Retrieved 2020-09-30. Persily, Nathaniel (2015-04-27).

2. Solutions to Political Polarization in America. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-107-08711-8. NW, 1615 L. St; Suite 800Washington; Inquiries, DC 20036USA202-419-4300 | Main202-857-8562 | Fax202-419-4372 | Media.

3. "Wide partisan gaps on climate change, environment, guns and stronger military". Pew Research Center - U.S. Politics & Policy. Retrieved 2020-09-30. NW, 1615 L. St; Suite 800Washington; Inquiries, DC 20036USA202-419-4300 | Main202-857-8562 | Fax202-419-4372 | Media (2020-02-13).

4. "Environmental Protection Rises on the Public's Policy Agenda As Economic Concerns Recede". Pew Research Center - U.S. Politics & Policy. Retrieved 2020-09-30.Inc, Gallup (2019-12-05).

5. "The Impact of Increased Political Polarization". Gallup.com. Retrieved 2020-09-30. NW, 1615 L. St; Suite 800Washington; Inquiries, DC 20036USA202-419-4300 | Main202-857-8562 | Fax202-419-4372 | Media (2014-06-12).

6. "Political Polarization in the American Public". Pew Research Center - U.S. Politics & Policy. Retrieved 2020-09-30.

Ethanpak (talk) 01:58, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead should clarify that the polarization is asymmetric

Multiple studies (some of which are cited in the body) show that the polarization is asymmetric. AFAIK, there is no research disputing that. The content should be in the lead. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 00:31, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But there is only one sentence on this in an article that contains six sections and 15 subsections of text. Isn't it WP:UNDUE to put it in the lead? 74.67.45.185 (talk) 02:02, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's intrinsic to the subject of the article to clarify the nature of the polarization. Per research, it's asymmetric as it's primarily been driven by the rightward shift of one party. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 21:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Unless I’m wrong, if the subject of the article was “rightward shift,” this would make more sense, but the subject of the article is not that, but simply political polarization. This whole debate has been on the nature of the polarization, and assuming the other person is wrong based on assumptions seems a bit far away from guidelines. Am I missing something crucial here?Hermit7 (talk) 00:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Disagreement

There is a disagreement over this sentence:

Polarization in U.S. politics is asymmetric, as it has primarily been driven by a substantial rightward shift among congressional Republicans.[1][2][3][4][5]

I think the sentence should be changed to make it less conclusory; Snooganssnoogans disagrees. 74.67.45.185 (talk) 02:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple studies are cited. Why should this be presented as an attributed POV? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 21:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the sentence changing to be less conclusive would resolve the dispute. I explained this in my post, but I believe reverting my edit was a case of bias and will stand by that until it is explained why my references were bad.Hermit7 (talk) 22:23, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello I would like to dispute the lead in the article. Here are a few articles that summarize that both parties have equally contributed to the divide. The lead stating it has been driven mostly by Republicans is incorrect and I would like to remove that part of the article. Thank you

https://www.facinghistory.org/educator-resources/current-events/explainer/political-polarization-united-states

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/06/12/7-things-to-know-about-polarization-in-america/

Dispution of reverted edit

Hello! I’m Hermit7 and I recently made an edit on this post which helped bring balance to a sentence in the header, saying that political polarisation was mainly on the Republicans’ side. After finding more than one news source saying that the Democrats have contributed to this as well, as well as polls agreeing with this, I put this in - not a big edit by any means - but then it got reverted. The reason is cited as “a mixture of synthesis and poor references,” but this confuses me, as I thought more than one reference (Washington Post, for example) was a valid reference and nothing was against that. Please let me know what makes these references not good enough, as failure to do so would lead me to conclude this was nothing but bias. Thanks again, Hermit7 Hermit7 (talk) 22:22, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The existing text already says the polarization is asymmetric, as it's "primarily" driven by a rightward shift among Republicans. Emphasizing that Democrats have mildly shifted to the left under a "However, Democrats have shifted too!" framing is false balance and undue. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 22:31, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So you’re saying that attempting to bring balance to an article and attempt to improve it is false balance and undue...Please explain to me why, if improving articles is undue, why you are “improving” the article and reverting the edits if such an action is (unless I’m wrong) false balance and undue. Hermit7 (talk) 08:29, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Major dispute

I have noticed a lot of slow-motion reverting on this article by Snooganssnoogans and JFerrell007. It appears that both of these editors are editing in circles with no end in sight. Would it be okay if I filed a report on the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard?

For the record, I think this article is problematic in some ways. For example, the lead does not distinguish between political polarization between politicians and ordinary citizens. I have found information from Gallup and Pew that contradicts the lead. I also found a study that said Democratic voters have become more extreme than Republicans, but it is not a secondary source. JFerrell007 can help by providing studies that contradict this article. Until then, the article cannot change much.

I will not add these studies to the article because Snooganssnoogans has disputed their inclusion before, and I do not want to cause drama. I usually avoid complicated areas like this because I do not have time to become an expert on this topic. What should we do from here? Scorpions13256 (talk) 04:22, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note that I have opened a 3RR case concerning JFerrel007 at WP:AN, following 6 consecutive reverts. Casspedia (talk) 16:52, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'll what and see how this turns out. Scorpions13256 (talk) 23:32, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Hacker, Jacob S.; Pierson, Paul (2015), Persily, Nathaniel (ed.), "Confronting Asymmetric Polarization", Solutions to Political Polarization in America, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, pp. 59–70, ISBN 978-1-107-45191-9, retrieved 2021-02-04
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference :12 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ Benkler, Yochai; Faris, Robert; Roberts, Hal (2018-10-18). Polarization in American Politics. Vol. 1. Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/oso/9780190923624.003.0010.
  4. ^ "Asymmetric Constitutional Hardball". Columbia Law Review. Retrieved 2021-02-06. Social scientists have shown convincingly that since the 1970s, Republicans have moved further to the right than Democrats have moved to the left{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  5. ^ Rackaway, Chapman; Rice, Laurie L. (2018), Rackaway, Chapman; Rice, Laurie L. (eds.), "Introduction: Turning Lemons into Lemonade? Party Strategy as Compensation for External Stresses", American Political Parties Under Pressure: Strategic Adaptations for a Changing Electorate, Springer, pp. 1–13, doi:10.1007/978-3-319-60879-2_1, ISBN 978-3-319-60879-2, retrieved 2021-02-06, In recent years, scholarly research has delved into the issue of asymmetric polarization. This is the idea the Republican Party is more uniformly conservative than the Democratic Party is united by liberalism. This is appearing to be true at the mass level and, to a greater degree, among elected officials.
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