Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 May 1

American Catholic Church in the United States – Administrative close. @TimOliv: as noted here, the AfD in question is almost 9 years old. Please just open a new AfD. A lot can change in 9 years, and it's entirely possible a new discussion may result in a different outcome. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:11, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.

This particular denomination is not notable according to Wikipedia guidelines. The news articles referenced in 2018 are 1) not currently active and 2) in looking at archived copies, these were not articles about the denomination at all. They were articles about current issues which involved brief statements with clergy who were noted to be members of this denomination. The primary source cited is its inclusion in the Encyclopedia of American Religions. They do, indeed, have a brief blurb which references the group's own website as the source.

This is circular logic. The group's only claim to notability is a blurb constructed from their website to justify a Wikipedia article populated with information only from their website. Beyond that, only tangential mentions in local media sources should not be sufficient to justify an article for this group. Given that even after that discussion no new sources were added and the group continues to not be noteworthy, and my most recent TfD was removed within minutes of its posting, I am requesting that the discussion be reviewed. The article is written using language from the group's own page exclusively. It is serving as nothing more than an advertisement. TimOliv (talk) 01:31, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural Close with the option to go to AFD - I see that the filer tried to PROD this article, and the PROD was removed because there was an AFD nine years ago. The filer can start another AFD. This doesn't appear to be an appeal of the close of the AFD 9 years ago (and if it were, they would be told to start another AFD). Close this DRV as the wrong forum, and advise the filer that they can go to AFD. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- What he said. Hobit (talk) 01:56, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above is an archive of the deletion review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it.