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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 2600:6c64:737f:9113:1ccc:9306:1aca:6593 (talk) at 19:47, 29 August 2021. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Information icon Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Atari. Your edits could be interpreted as vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. 2600:6C64:737F:9113:1CCC:9306:1ACA:6593 (talk) 19:32, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Atari. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

If you feel that I have reverted an edit or issued a warning in error, please let me know. I am human, and I do make mistakes. Please don't interpret an error on my part as a personal attack on you. It's not, I promise. I ask you to simply bring it to my attention; I am always open to civil discussion. Thank you. IfnordTalk to me!

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A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Thanks for self reverting Ratnahastin tålk 16:55, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Ratnahastin. I was going to apologize on your talk page but got pulled away. Thank-you for being understanding. Ifnord (talk) 17:14, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Check the other Warner Bros. films articles (2010-2019, etc.) and you will see that there are little to no references. Like I said, once the films are released, there's just no need to have the page bloated with references for past movies.

the juniper tree summary

hi inford i did change the juniper tree summary my reasoning for this was that the old one was false information thank you for understanding

Quick note

The revision [1] is great, but ideally wouldn't be marked as "minor". Thanks for taking care of this. Hobit (talk) 04:08, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hobit. As a vandalism patroller, I use a semi-automated program called Twinkle to assist. The indication of "minor" is automatically added by it, I assume because I am not actually changing anything but reverting to the prior edit. Ifnord (talk) 05:51, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weird. I recall a discussion about that years ago, but I thought that default had been changed. I also thought Twinkle gave a bit more of a note about the reason. Thanks for explaining! Hobit (talk) 12:21, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adding Content

Hello.. My name was in the section notable in Lakshmipur district... I wanted to add a link beside my name and now my name has been removed from notable.. Please check this issue and add my name again in notable. Many many thanks in advance. Tc Riman Zahir Chowdhury (talk) 17:39, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Riman Zahir Chowdhury. Wikipedia is not a directory for self-promotion, please stop trying to advertise yourself. If you are notable enough to be included in a global encyclopedia, someone will write about you. Ifnord (talk) 17:41, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well ok but my name was already there.... I don't know if I did something wrong that it got removed. You can check if you want. If possible from your side please add my name again. Thanks Riman Zahir Chowdhury (talk) 17:44, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Riman Zahir Chowdhury. If you are notable enough to be included in a global encyclopedia someone, other than you, will write about you. Ifnord (talk) 17:49, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stop creepy pop up bot.

Remove that IP thing now 74.75.9.45 (talk) 17:52, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to help. Ifnord (talk) 17:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Steven Curtis Chapman

Hi Ifnord, I manage Steven Curtis Chapman, on behalf of the family, I am trying to edit a few things mainly they would like to paragraph about their daughter's death removed and shorted in the personal page. Thank you for your help. --67.187.111.115 (talk) 18:43, 18 August 2021 (UTC)Mark Mattingly[reply]

Hello, 67.187.111.115. Please see WP:COI and WP:PAID. Ifnord (talk) 18:49, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! --67.187.111.115 (talk) 19:30, 18 August 2021 (UTC)mark[reply]

A Barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Your work removing vandalism is appreciated! LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop) (My Little Pony) 20:41, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's very kind, thank-you TLA (Three Letter Acronym) fan!

Canada did not produce the series, and thus it is not a Canadian series and only an American series, I have tried told you many times already.

You could read the article and discover it was produced by Nelvana, the Canadian animation studio. Ifnord (talk) 19:20, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding case being dismissed daniz salih

Hello ive been stopped from editing on clerkenwell crime syndicate It is fact as reported in daily Mail regarding daniz salih and son of pat adams Case was flung out cps offered no evidence against mr salih

Stanley Holloway

Hello Ifnord, you just reverted my removal of citation of primary sources on Stanley Holloway; basically I considered that since facts like Holloway's birth at Manor Park are covered in his ODNB entry (which I was about to add just now), there's no need to use deprecated primary sources. I see that per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources it's made clear that if possible the primary sources at places such as Ancestry are to be avoided, and since so much of the article's content is already covered by published sources in this case it appears to me unnecessary. "Be bold" and all that. Also, using things like probate records is original research, and the published sources already cited (particularly Holloway & Richards) give enough detail on the family so as not to necessitate adding so much detail on the grandfather etc (per NOTGENEALOGY)- he's only really relevant as a) a successful enough businessman to make the family comfortable, also mentioned in the ODNB entry and Holloway & Richards as aforementioned; b) the reason for the relocation of Holloway's father from Poplar to Manor Park- itself of dubious encyclopaedic value given the grandfather's address is debatably of absolutely no relevance to Holloway's own article.

Hello, 88.109.215.181. Original research is not providing a reference, so using probate records would not be a violation of WP:OR. But, I see your point regarding the ancestry references. You have removed content along with those references, however. I would suggest you discuss those changes on the article's talk pages prior to removing them again. Ifnord (talk) 14:55, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your response Ifnord. To my understanding (at least such has been quoted against me previously) "original research" lies in the contributor doing the research himself and coming to the conclusion that the Augustus Holloway in question is the right man, with synthesis arising from the combination of mentions in published sources of, say, "Holloway's grandfather being a successful brush-maker" with, as in this case, the probate record (which doesn't give birth date anyway, so that at least requires a source). I removed the entire paragraph on the grandfather because no secondary/ published sources are cited for even one piece of information, and also because, as the rest of the section goes on to indicate, the sole relevance to Stanley Holloway is indicating why his father, George Holloway, came to be at Manor Park, Stanley Holloway's birthplace. One rarely encounters such detailed information on precisely why an individual happened to be born where he was; if so, generally in terms of countries rather than areas of a city! The only relevant facts about the grandfather- covered by the ODNB entry and by Holloway & Richards- are that he was a fairly successful brush-maker thanks to whom Holloway's own family was comfortably off. His wife's name and other children are not relevant to an article about Stanley Holloway and anyway lack reliable- as in not primary- sources. The details of George Holloway's occupation, marriage to his employer's daughter, and children are all in Holloway & Richards; the Ancestry.com 1901 census return is unnecessary (and deprecated per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources). That George Holloway left his family is, as shown, covered by Holloway & Richards; the probate record citation is, as with the other citations of probate records here, original research and, again the information scarcely relevant. The text "George Augustus Holloway later remarried and moved to Forest Gate, East London. The England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858–1966 shows George A. Holloway's death as being registered on 13 June 1919." itself is troublesome as the Probate record would not give details of his remarriage or move to Forest Gate; what the contributor is saying is that THIS probate record, for A George A. Holloway, shows a different widow's name than "Florence" and presumably a location of death as "Forest Gate".
Just to add, I observe discussion of this point- the consensus seemingly being the detail on the grandparents was excessive, let alone the quality of sources- has previously taken place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stanley_Holloway/Archive_2#Family_background ; the user, Cassianto, evidently responsible for this excessive detail, expressed his approach in that talk page, thus: "The whole point of this article is to allow people a reference guide about all aspects of somebodies life and work. Maybe this article should read Stanley Holloway He was born, worked in a few famous films,

then died. That way it's all facts something which none of you can complain about. My intentions were honourable in getting down on paper little or unknown information, complete with references, citations and evidence to back up my research about a famous person, so at least there was a record of it, but I have been humiliated and treated with utter contempt. I really cant be bothered any more. Bastardize the article as much as you like. You all think your'e academically brilliant but in reality you have no more intelligence than a loaf of bread." Which I feel all speaks for itself, frankly.

Atari

Hi, it seems like you're either mistaken or might just be a troll vandalizing the Atari page (possibly even a white supremacist). Soulja Boy announced recently that he acquired Atari. I know Atari's Twitter claims it's untrue, but he actually showed documents proving that he owns the company.

In the future, please do research before starting edit wars. I'm nice, so I won't report you to the staff, but someday if you do this again, someone might not be as forgiving, and then you might end up getting banned. Best of luck in improving your behavior in the future! :) 2600:6C64:737F:9113:1CCC:9306:1ACA:6593 (talk) 19:39, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PROVEIT. Ifnord (talk) 19:39, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZytjjz2FME Here is proof that Soulja Boy is the new owner of Atari. 2600:6C64:737F:9113:1CCC:9306:1ACA:6593 (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not going to look at it as I assume it's the artist themself saying they own it. If you put up a similar video and used that as a reference that you owned the Hooter's restaurant chain, should it be included in Wikipedia? Ifnord (talk) 19:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've provided evidence. You have not. And I'm pretty sure you're a member of the white supremacist movement, or possibly even a skinhead or a Neo Nazi. So what you say holds no value. --2600:6C64:737F:9113:1CCC:9306:1ACA:6593 (talk) 19:47, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]