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Grunge genre

This genre has been repeatedly removed from the article, especially in the infobox by a host of IPs. While many people have opinions about what genre(s) a song belongs to, we cannot inject such opinions on our own into the article; content is backed by what reliable, independent secondary sources say, including genres. Grunge is clearly sourced in the article, in the Composition and lyrics section, per this source.^[1] While Wikipedians can't determine the genres of this song per various policies, like WP:OR and WP:NPOV, they can determine things like weight based on what a number of reliable sources say. I don't object to the current sourcing for the "grunge" genre, even though I cited only one source that was in the article, but this is the place to iron out any dispute about it, if any. MPFitz1968 (talk) 15:34, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Saywitz, Rachel (May 21, 2021). "Olivia Rodrigo cements her success story on the explorative and heartbroken Sour". The Line of Best Fit. Retrieved May 21, 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

I moved Grunge to the last spot of the genres list since it has only 1 source. BawinV (talk) 15:43, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

this is if you can call it song is by far not rock, grunge or emo. it’s just boring as plastic pop that’s it Oliviaisac0nt (talk) 17:30, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Calling it grunge is giving undue weight wp:WEIGHT we should only call it what the majority of reliable sources call it not some random site you found on google.--Fruitloop11 (talk) 22:31, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Violation of wp:FALSEBALANCE and clearly nothing to do with Grunge.--Fruitloop11 (talk) 23:35, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how if works. This is a music article, and WP:EXPLICITGENRE is what that matters. Regards. BawinV (talk) 04:35, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cite all the websites you want, it is not a grunge song, by any definition. 2601:143:C500:1B10:9C7:727F:4593:1BBF (talk) 14:14, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RFC on whether Olivia Rodrigo is a "singer-songwriter"

Olivia Rodrigo has an RFC over whether Rodrigo should be called a singer-songwriter in the article, instead of a singer and a songwriter. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. BawinV (talk) 09:26, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Writing Credits

The claim that " the chorus is melodically based on the Paramore's 2007 song "Misery Business" is speculative opinion, and not in any way actually supported by any hard evidence. Accordingly, I have removed the language making that claim and replaced it with accurate language describing the fact that allegations have been made to that effect, after which Williams and Farro were granted writing credits. There has been no admission of guilt of any kind, and this is fact a standard practice in the industry when companies wish to avoid litigation. Already, someone has reverted my changes (which I made while not logged in), and I have reverted the reversion and added additional information for my citation to well-known musicologist Adam Neely, who analyses both songs and others and illuminates the music theory reasons why the two songs seem similar. It seems likely that this is going to lead to a revision war, even though my changes to the article are accurate, and the part I changed was not. Gcvrsa (talk) 01:44, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Saywitz, Rachel (May 21, 2021). "Olivia Rodrigo cements her success story on the explorative and heartbroken Sour". The Line of Best Fit. Retrieved May 21, 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

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