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Maridhas Malaichamy

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A non-notable youtuber with no WP:SIGCOV other than routine media coverage for police booking him for implying the Muslim community for the spread of COVID-19[1], for an email-forgery case[2] and for his subsequent arrest.

He has written two self-published books (Why I support Narendra Modi, Why I oppose urban naxals) supporting the ruling BJP and fails WP:AUTHOR. The subject was only known as "youtuber" in nearly all reliable sources and not one source refers to him as an "activist". - SUN EYE 1 17:05, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Several unreliable news outlets which report significantly about the subject including Opindia./com(RSP entry), Swarajyamag./com(RSP entry), tfipost./com were blacklisted in Wikipedia over fake news, persistent abuse and doxing several Indian Wiki editors.- SUN EYE 1 04:42, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The article has POV issues and maybe "activist" isn't the best descriptor. But he seems notable. The news coverage I could find isn't WP:ROUTINE. Routine would mean getting arrested for drunk driving and having that reported in a newspaper. This guy seems to have been accused of many serious crimes and has plenty of articles covering said allegations many of which are included in the Wikipedia article right now. The newspapers certainly seem to believe he's important given they're giving coverage of his appeals. [3] In my experience newspapers don't care about the ultimate outcome of cases unless its somewhat important. Additionally, WP:CRIME doesn't apply here, as due to the nature of the offenses that are alleged, there's no singular identifiable person who would be considered the "victim". That isn't to say I'm saying he's allegedly committed "victimless crimes" but that the alleged "victim" here would be the Indian Muslim community or something along those lines, and it would be inappropriate to put all of our coverage of this guy in an article on such a broad topic. There's also no "main crime" since the Maridhas has been alleged to have done/said a lot of bad things. I'd say this guy passes the WP:GNG and the WP:CRIME threshold for his own article.Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 22:05, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Chess, thanks for the comment, there is almost no Significant coverage about his background or what he is. All the news coverage are about the alleged crimes and religious hate speech for which he was booked and arrested. The coverage is due to social media outrage among the Hindu nationalist right-wing circles in social media. I don't think it passes WP:CRIME, the subject is not yet convicted, the policy states Editors must give serious consideration to not creating an article on an alleged perpetrator when no conviction is yet secured. Please note, the right-wing sites like opinida./com, swarajyamag./com and tfipost./com which are the only ones who cover significantly about this guy are blacklisted in Wiki for abuse, fakenews and doxxing several Indian wiki editors.[4][5] Thanks- SUN EYE 1 04:19, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I see tons of articles in the Indian Express about him. [6] 6 by my count. Meanwhile 18 articles in the Times of India about this guy. [7] This guy keeps getting arrested over and over again while the media continues to give him more and more attention. He's not really notable for his YouTube channel or his background or whatever, he's notable because he keeps criticizing the government and possibly spreading conspiracy theories and the media constantly reports on him. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 04:48, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Chess Please see WP:TOI, it is considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable. The media reported once during 2019 for a police complaint for fake news and promote enmity between religious groups, once during 2020 for a complaint filed by the police for Deliberate and malicious acts, intended to outrage religious feelings. The next coverage season started after 8th of this month when was booked and arrested by cyber crime police, arrested for a email forgery and for blaming Muslims for spreading COVID-19 and for his court verdict for a single case. That's all the coverage he got, two times in the last two years and this month. All of these coverage were only about his legal issues, nothing about what he has accomplished and no WP:SIGCOV. I don't think the subject passes WP:NBASIC. - SUN EYE 1 05:47, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
His "accomplishment" are his legal issues, it seems. The media reports on this guy getting arrested very often. You've provided plenty of sources to support that. If we take your claim that coverage of being arrested doesn't establish notability and extend it to its logical conclusion, then this guy could have hundreds of articles on him and full length books and still not meet notability criteria if they only cover his arrests. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 18:04, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's not my claim, WP:CRIME states A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person.. - SUN EYE 1 18:18, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And the whole crux of my original comment was such an article doesn't exist. What article would that be? Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 18:40, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The defamation case filed against him by News18 can be incorporated in News18 Tamil Nadu or News 18. His comments about Muslims spreading COVID is already in COVID-19_pandemic_in_Tamil_Nadu#Misinformation_and_discrimination. His arrest about Helicopter crash is everyday politics in India, several people were also arrested all over the country for spreading misinformation on the very same incident[8], this can be incorporated into 2021 Indian Air Force Mil Mi-17 crash if possible. - SUN EYE 1 19:09, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete His notability seems to be more about his legal troubles rather than what he's accomplished. Oaktree b (talk) 02:55, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: For future reference, you don't need to add that many delsort tags. Curbon7 (talk) 03:18, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Curbon7 I was unaware, will keep that in mind. Thanks - SUN EYE 1 04:20, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per Chess. Article is good enough to pass WP:GNG. ASTIG😎 _{(ICE T • ICE CUBE)} 15:15, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete his notability is about his legal problems than what he has accomplished WP:NOTNEWS applies the coverage is over his arrest and legal problems.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:39, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete this person fails WP:NPOLITICIAN, WP:NAUTHOR and WP:ANYBIO. I looked at all sources online and tried improving the article. His 2 books are not notable. His criminal background cannot be appropriately covered without violating WP:BLPCRIME as he has not been convicted yet. If you remove the crimes, there is nothing to write about this WP:SUSPECT. It is common for politicians in Tamil Nadu to do some kind of controversial stunts to get publicity. This youtuber appears to be using the libel and insinuation as political stunts to gain youtube subscribers. There is absolutely zero achievement. Abusing others online and then getting WP:NOTNEWS type coverage for arrest should not qualify for getting Wikipedia articles. Or else every loud mouth will get a Wiki article. --Venkat TL (talk) 10:41, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The indivual in the article is mononymously know as Maridhas. Is that mononymous name important ? Well, if you click on find sources, it looks for "Maridhas Malaichamy". However, when I searched Maridhas, I found these articles (all credible sources: Wire, Hindu-1, Indian Express, Hindu-2, Hindu-3, Hindu-4, Hindu-5 and BBC in Tamizh). That's a handful. There are a few other sources that have publised on Maridhas that aren't in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. These don't necessarily mean 'unrealiable' (I haven't included them though). These are perhaps in addition to 6 - The Indian Express (again credible) articles already pointed out by User:Chess. Apart from these article, his name has poped up in a PhD dissertation submitted to the Teachers College, Columbia University, USA (The Transnational Consciousness of Second-Generation Indian American Teachers - page nos. 15,16,343) and a Masters thesis submitted to University of Ottawa (a Tweet Analysis System to Study Human Needs During COVID-19 Pandemic page 49). Therefore its not WP:BARE but passes (also per User:Chess) the GNG. Comment: I'm curious why WP:DSPROF, WP:DSBOSS, Journalism, News Media, Discrimination and WP:DTERRORISM have been added here. μ Talk 21:37, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]