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Citizenship

Tatoo111. good day. (1) The source you provided stating he raised Georgian flag but this does not mean he is a Georgian as many mma fighters do raised other countries' flags during the actual weight in or ceremony weight in or hang the flags in the octagon or during post fight invterview. (Note: He was born in Germany as per source). (2) As per your edit summary, you stated he parents are Georgian, that does not make him a Georgian citizen. If If you can find independent, relaible sources such as from the major newspaper the subject is of Georgian heritage, then you can add the info in the "body text" under "Background" section and not the lead//intro section with source support the claim. (3) UFC is not considered an independent source for the subject (Topuria) has an association with UFC since he fights under UFC banner. (4) Pls do not revert again but discuss the issue here as an edit warring notification has been sent to your talk page, and if you continue to revert you will be blocked. Cassiopeia talk 23:38, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cassiopeia in an Interview he mentioned having both Georgian and Spanish citizenships. He's fighting out of Alicante Spain. Representing Georgia in honor of his homeland, but alongside Georgian flag, he holds Spanish flag, for the opportunity Spain gave him to train. --Lemabeta (talk) 19:05, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lemabeta (1) info need to be supported by independent, reliable sources. (2) Fighting out of certain country and fight under certain flag or his heritage do not equal of having a the citizenship in the country. If you can find independent, reliable sources (what he say in a interview is considered NOT independent source and utube is not a considered a reliable source but would consider if you can provide the website (not in youtube) that he has Georgian and Spain citizenship) then pls provide and we can add in the info and until then "German-born MMA fighter..." will remain in the article as he was born and raised in Germany are well-sourced.22:36, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
Lemabeta The sources need to be independent and reliable - sportscovering and playerswiki.com are not reliable.00:45, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Cassiopeia Ilia Topuria has said in numerous Georgian interviews that he holds both Georgian and Spanish passports and represents both countries. I dont understand why you are trying to Germanize him. --Lemabeta (talk) 00:45, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lemabeta Again, many fighters say they "represent" certain countries or their heritage/blood line/ ethnicity or the whole world, that does not equal they are the citizens of that countries of the world. It is a different thing. You need to provide sources to support the claim. In Wikipedia, it is all about verification. And again, he was born and raised in Germany. Nationality is not a bout heritage nor ethnicity or race. I am not against you nor Toupuria or any editors on this topic. I mainly follow the Wikipedia guidelines. Info needs to be supported by independent, reliable sources, and some info can be added if the source is from the subject and in this case, it could be and that is the reasons I ask you if you can provide the source (web page). Example: If he in real life have 3 children and the source say two we have to put 2 and not 3. So same here, if the source indicates he has Spanish and Gerogian passport, then we put that in if not we dont. Cassiopeia talk 00:59, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2022

79.150.245.34 (talk) 01:42, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He is spanish

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:49, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Moved back to Georgia at age 7 (from Germany). Moved to Spain at 15. Source is this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MivJ1FR7QKg around 4:20 46.242.15.115 (talk) 12:29, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]