Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evan Beloff

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. I am not relisting this a fourth time as I don't believe it would engender significantly more discussion. No objection to a speedy re-nom should the issues raised not be addressed. Star Mississippi 22:08, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Evan Beloff

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Does not meet WP:BIO. Ploni (talk) 13:59, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Ploni (talk) 13:59, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:01, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. While the article itself could be written better so as not to sound like a résumé or advertisement, I believe that the amount of references in the article along with the results of a Google search show that the subject has received enough coverage in reliable secondary sources to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. --Zander251 (talk) 03:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. The person is notable and article reflects that notability. Billshine (talk) 20:49, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More specifics, please? Why does the topic not meet BIO? Which results from a Google search indicate notability? Bare assertions of notability hold little weight when weighing consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:54, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The SNG for WP:BIO that is most applicable to Evan Beloff is WP:CREATIVE. Per that he fails all four of the criteria. We can then fallback to WP:NBASIC to consider if he is notable per that. There are a number of sources mentioning Evan Beloff, but in almost all of them he is not the focus of the article and it is more of a passing mention where he is noted for being the director of a film and is thus WP:INHERITed notability. Interestingly, it does seem that his movie Just As I Am might be notable enough for its own page, which is why I am advising delete versus redirecting to Kosher Love. snood1205 18:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:50, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 01:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I know I already left my rationale for delete above, but now that this has had a third relist, I would like to try to find consensus on this soon so it's not closed as no consensus. Do the other AfD particpants have sources or other guidelines I should consider? I am happy with my delete argument, but it's possible I am missing something. Tagging Billshine and Zander251 to get their input. TartarTorte 02:08, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Searching 20+ years of media coverage about his films, I wonder if No Consensus is indeed the right outcome. There's a lot of coverage of his projects in major Canadian media outlets, nation-wide, over the years. Enough that I'd argue some of those films themselves should have articles - but they don't. But not particularly a lot about him. I'm torn. Perhaps WP:Director is a better standard than WP:BIO. Nfitz (talk) 00:02, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.