Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Al-Hattali

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The result was Delete. Even if we don't apply WP:FPL as suggested by Hmlarson, there is no evidence either that GNG is met. Randykitty (talk) 17:22, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Al-Hattali

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He has not played a professional senior game at club or international level. Article fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Also fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 09:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above - Fails NSPORT. –Davey2010 • (talk) 19:18, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 06:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 12:28, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Another footballer who fails WP:NFOOTY. Jim Carter (from public cyber) 19:22, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Player plays for Fanja SC in top division league in Oman. Is there a "fully professional" league in Oman? Did you do your research in Arabic or English? Article needs expansion, not deletion. Hmlarson (talk) 15:08, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - please see WP:FPL, there is no consensus that any team in Oman plays in a fully professional league. We don't keep player articles on the grounds that a league "might" be fully professional, only if reliable sources can be provided to indicate that it is. Fenix down (talk) 16:14, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FPL is an essay, not a formal Wikipedia policy or guideline. WP:GNG would be more applicable here with resources most likely found in native country/region. Correct me if I'm wrong but I doubt there's anyone here commenting that lives there or speaks/reads Arabic. Two other essays for your review and consideration: WP:WORLDVIEW, WP:IMBALANCE. Hmlarson (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

and one for you WP:CONSENSUS, hundreds and hundreds of AfD results have created the consensus that if a player has never played in an agreed upon FPL or senior international football then they have to have done something pretty special. It would be more helpful if rather than flinging around essays you took the time to explain how the player meets GNG in order to support your keep vote. Simply saying keep because there might be sources out there is insufficient. there might be, but if there is no one to read them and cite them then notability cannot by definition be asserted. Fenix down (talk) 17:44, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Flinging around essays? Lol. Hmlarson (talk) 18:39, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Refs I added some additional references from the region. It also appears as if he may play beach soccer for the national team. 1 Perhaps original author @Alhosniomani20 could confirm and add additional references, if so. Article needs expansion, not deletion. Hmlarson (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Player plays for Fanja SC in Oman Professional league in Oman which is in its second season now. There is a fully professional league in Oman and Oman gets one AFC Champions League play-off place. Also the player has played games in AFC Cup. The second biggest club football competition in Asia. Isn't that enough. Alhosniomani20 (talk) 10:40, 2 August 2014 (MCT)

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