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Based on discussion with HighKing at Talk:Petzone... the entity fails at WP:NCORP and PR/advertisements-based articles are masquerading as news i.e., WP:ADMASQ. Hence, calling for an AfD discussion to generate a wider and unbiased consensus. - Hatchens (talk) 12:33, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy keep. First of all, as someone in the Middle East who knows a lot about which kinds of chain stores are notable and which ones are not -- this is the largest pet store in Kuwait with various stores in other countries as well, so there's no way that Petzone would fail WP:NCORP. It's equivalent to Petco and PetSmart in the US. With multiple features in the Gulf News, Arab Times, Kuwait Times, The National, and other top-tier newspapers in the Gulf, these are not definitely not press releases at all. Also they're notable enough to have made it onto the Arabic and Persian versions, which are both now quite tough on notability standards and anti-advertising policies. I would suggest taking a closer look at this before considering deletion. Hawawshibread (talk) 11:35, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Hawawshibread, Not enough good reasons. Could you justify your statements with relevant Wikipedia guidelines? -Hatchens (talk) 12:44, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]


  • Keep they don't seem notable in the Anglosphere, but visiting the references on Google or just doing a simple search of their nameshows they are notable in Arabic-speaking countries, with in-depth articles about them on major news sites (not just blogs). Not all Citations are paid as there is a winning award in their niche segment so isn't a reason to delete the page, as the article isn't defamatory - either ignore it and leave it to someone else or check the references and remove the irrelevant ones. They also have articles on Persian and Tagalog Wikipedia in addition to animal welfare support which seems to be important to their community. Humble84 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:59, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It would be helpful if those arguing for keeping the article could point to some reliable sources discussing the topic. These sources need not be in English.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 17:44, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete unless better sources can be found. I looked at those currently cited and all appear to be not independent or not reliable, or don't provide significant coverage. The Arabic Wikipedia article was deleted, and the other languages only cite sources that are in the English article. A865 (talk) 18:43, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep here a reliable source in Arabic that shows they are notable with contributions for local comunity in a top-tier mainstream Al Qabas click to veiw plus they do have an award in their niche buisness which shows that they are known in their segment.Humble84 (talk) 20:07, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
double vote struck. Further evidence allowed, of course. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:26, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Well, of course non of us like a page who created to be deleted after a big effort and that also frankly make my vote less weighted here in your discussion. My ponit of view that they have the following reilaible and independant souces:

1.click to veiw 2._ click to veiw 3._ click to veiw 4.click to veiw End of the day I respect all of your opinions and your decision whether to keep or delete it.Regards Darksheild (talk) 15:09, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:37, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

While we don't have to follow what other language wikis do, the unsourced claims by other commenters that this is one of the largest pet stores or equivalent to PetSmart seems to fall if even the Arabic article was deleted. KoA (talk) 04:45, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I confess that I am animal lover and have a bias for all things pet related. The company has been mentioned by a reputable source - Gulf News [1]. However the article is more about the terrible event rather than a focus on the company. This is a list of what probably was a curated list by an author[2]InfiNeuro (talk) 03:36, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment:I see that they contribute to animal welfare in 3rd world countrires like Middle East plus support animals rights and community education in non profit way. I feel that wikipedia community should take a look to the importance of this topic rather than other factors.Last but not least I am not a sockpuppet for any user here!Humble84 (talk) 21:08, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]