Talk:Toulouse Masters (rugby union)

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Renaming of this article

This article should be the Toulouse International Rugby Masters and not World Club Championship rugby union, specifically as it is not the World Club Championship rugby union and there has never been a World Club Championship rugby union. The participants in the competition should make it obvious that it is not as it is titled, specifically the Fiji Barbarians in the 1986 edition are not a club, nor are the Fiji XV, Western Samoa XV, Soviet Union XV, and Romania XV which all appeared in the 1990 edition. There has been no evidence of citations put forward that suggests that this tournament was the World Club Championship rugby union but there are plenty as viewing the article that suggest that it was a private tournament set up by Toulouse rugby club to pay for the improvements of their new stadium. The fact is there has never been a World Club Championship rugby union but there is one for rugby league called World Club Challenge, therefore it is recommended to change the name of the article to Toulouse International Rugby Masters as they were promoted as.79.155.36.178 (talk) 16:26, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 April 2022

It has been proposed in this section that Toulouse Masters (rugby union) be renamed and moved to Toulouse International Rugby Masters.

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World Club Championship rugby union → Toulouse International Rugby Masters – There has never been a World Club Championship in Rugby Union but there are plans for the future. The tournaments listed were promoted as the Toulouse International Masters and were private tournaments with the aim to attain the money to cover the costs for improvements of Toulouse Rugby club's new stadium. This is all currently covered in the article 79.155.36.178 (talk) 17:22, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 13:46, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please provide evidences to varify the claims. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:48, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Besides the references and citations that are already covered in the article and which make it clear that this was not intended to be construed as a World Club Cup, nor a World Club Championship. The participants in the competition should make this point obvious. Specifically the Fiji Barbarians, which participated in the 1986 edition, are not a club, they are a touring team. Nor are the Fiji XV, Western Samoa XV, Soviet Union XV, and Romania XV clubs, which all appeared in the 1990 edition, they are national teams. I have listed two recent articles in regards to a future world club championship in rugby union and which make it clear this will be the first such tournament.
- McLeod, Alex (15 October 2021). "What a potential Club World Cup for rugby should look like". RugbyPass. Archived from the original on 15 October 2021. Retrieved 4 April 2022.
- Long, David (3 March 2022). "Global club rugby competition on table as sport's leaders meet". stuff. Archived from the original on 3 March 2022. Retrieved 4 April 2022. {{cite web}}: |archive-date= / |archive-url= timestamp mismatch; 15 October 2021 suggested (help)
I would also draw your attention to the image displayed in the news article below. It is from the 1986 final, between Toulouse (from France) and Farul Constanta (from Romania), and inscribed on the Trophy in very big lettering is International Masters de Rugby.
- Escot, Richard (29 December 2016). "Jean Fabre: "Et malgré tout cela, ça a été le bordel!" [Jean Fabre: "And despite all that, it was a mess!"]". L'Equipe (in French). Archived from the original on 31 December 2016. Retrieved 24 March 2022.
Also both tournaments were held in Toulouse. If you have other information that states otherwise, then please provide it here. 79.155.36.178 (talk) 12:56, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]