Talk:List of Formula One driver records
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Most wins record holder
I've taken the liberty of adding a list containing the most wins record holder per season. If this is not the right place, feel free to move it. Lustigson (talk) 10:38, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
- I've copyeditied it. Listing a year by year progression makes for a unnecessary long table.
SSSB (talk) 11:24, 27 October 2020 (UTC)- Thanks! Lustigson (talk) 11:25, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Hamilton percentage for 2020
List of Formula One driver records#Most wins in a season gives Hamilton as 11/15 whereas List of Formula One driver records#Highest percentage of wins in a season gives 11/17. Obviously it cannot possibly be 17 unless I've been in a coma and missed Abu Dhabi, but should it be out of 15 or 16? Moreover, if HAM wins in Abu Dhabi, should it read 12/17 or 12/16? Equally, if HAM races and doesn't win, is it 11/17 or 11/16, and if Hamilton doesn't race is it 11/15 or 11/17? Spa-Franks (talk) 02:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- My understanding is that in the "Highest percentage of xxx in a season" tables, we usually use the total number of races in the season (i.e. 17 in this case). Otherwise (if we used the number of races to date), then after the first race of the season, each table would have a driver with a percentage of 100%, which seems a bit misleading. DH85868993 (talk) 08:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Agree, with the same reasoning.
SSSB (talk) 10:00, 9 December 2020 (UTC)- But is it on number of entries (or starts, take your pick) per driver, or number of races in a season? Spa-Franks (talk) 18:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Races per season. Otherwise Johnnie Parsons would be on 100% for wins in 1950 etc..
SSSB (talk) 18:53, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Races per season. Otherwise Johnnie Parsons would be on 100% for wins in 1950 etc..
- But is it on number of entries (or starts, take your pick) per driver, or number of races in a season? Spa-Franks (talk) 18:16, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Agree, with the same reasoning.
Perez and Mercedes engine
Why is Perez's races during 2019-2020 included in the record "Most races with a single engine manufacturer"? Technically, BWT Mercedes is different from Mercedes. The ref itself doesn't include these two years to his races with Mercedes engine. We also treat them as two separate engines at Formula One engines, just like what we do to Renault and TAG Heuer during the past few years. Engr. Smitty Werben 04:28, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've removed the row (it was only added after the Sakhir Grand Prix). DH85868993 (talk) 06:11, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Hamilton race entries/starts?
The lists currently have 270 race entries overall for Hamilton, 269 race starts overall, and 269 starts and entries with a Mercedes engine - is the 270 race entries overall number incorrect, or some/all of the others? 188.31.70.225 (talk) 14:55, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- The ones that read 269 hadn't been updated for 2021 ESP GP.
SSSB (talk) 19:58, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Markus Winkelhock
List_of_Formula_One_driver_records#For_at_least_one_lap,_percentage_of_races
As much as I like the WinkelROCK meme, it seems weird to include drivers with only 1 or 2 race starts on a list like this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tdp2612 (talk • contribs) 17:39, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. But he holds the record. Of course, we could redefine the table to include only drivers with at least a certain number of starts...? SSSB (talk) 11:43, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not in favour of applying a number of starts/entries threshold to the tables in this article. I prefer to just present the raw data and let the reader decide for themselves the merits of achievements by drivers who only have a handful of starts. (I'm aware that we have a threshold of at least 15 entries for the "Highest percentage of points-scoring races" table; if it was up to me that table wouldn't have that restriction). DH85868993 (talk) 09:04, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
Possible split?
As it stands, this page is very, very long. It's presently 220kb; that's larger than many medium-resolution photographs.
Not only that, but the page has many records that are, shall we say, arbitrary or unimportant, like the aforementioned "For at least one lap, percentage of races" record. I have a feeling most people visiting this page would rather know the most wins between drivers or other similar major records as opposed to these more trivial ones.
The more important records could go to a separate, protected page, which would also discourage particularly rampant vandalism from a certain driver's fanbase, with a more detailed list elsewhere. That, or make a series of pages pertaining to one particular aspect of Formula 1, such as starts and finishes. 194.207.183.182 (talk) 09:54, 30 June 2022 (UTC)