Talk:Bryan Adams

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Covered songs list

That section, to me, is too huge and overwhelms the article. That, together with the choppiness of the prose, is what prevents this from being nominated as a good article, in my opinion. -- Avi 18:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It could go on the discography page. 80.47.164.51 19:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not so sure about the good article thing, it's only just been upgraded from start class to B. Hero1701 22:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've just removed it because I noticed that it IS already on the discography page. Hero1701 22:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Michelle1, why have you reverted the musical career section?

I spent a great deal of time adding information to the lacklustre section on Bryan's career, yet I did not omit any of the information that was there before. Why has it now been reverted to its previous state? Hero1701 01:14, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to know the reasons for you consistenly removing any mention of Sweeney Todd in Bryan's article. Hero1701 01:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sweeney Todd

Michelle, it is a clearly documented fact that Bryan Adams was in the band Sweeney Todd before his solo career. Now, you're claiming that's not true? Hero1701 15:18, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hero, Thanks for your great contributions to the page! I work at BA's office in Canada and we have the facts here, and BA was in many bands before his career started. Highlighting a bar band he spent a few months in when he was 15 was by no means a milestone in his career, and if we agreed we would add the 5 other bar bands he was in! There are people that are continuely try to capitalise on his name with bootleg recordings who don't pay any of the musicians, so i hope you will respect the changes I've made to your addition. all the best. Michelle1

That may be so, however, Sweeney Todd are a band of some note, not simply a bar band, they are also a band he released an album with. To me, it seems that they should not be simply omitted from this article, since they are a significant part of his background and career. Also, you have not simply selectively removed mention of Sweeney Todd, you have completely reverted the edits I have made, deleting useful information in the process. Hero1701 22:16, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hero, As i said, I work for BA's office and there were many bands before BA started working on his own music and ALL of them were bar bands when BA worked in them. The information you added has been re-edited based on fact, for example he is still working with Jim Vallance and Mutt Lange today. I've kept many of the details you added and thought they were good additions. please keep adding things, and i look forward to your input. best,

Michelle1

Michelle, the Vallance and Lange titles were only really a way to try and seperate eras in his career, those headings can be renamed, but I think they should remain in. If you wouldn't mind, could you explain your reasons for removing some of the following information, just so I'm clear:

The part about how he met Vallance
The part about Adams' change in vocal style
The part about Adams' parting of ways with Jim Vallance (I know they still work together, but this was the last time Adams and Vallance collaborated regularly, and on music that Adams would release himself)
The part about Adams' anticipated album.

Finally, may I say again, that I believe Sweeney Todd is worthy of mention, since he recorded an album with them, he was part of that band and that band was part of his career, that album is still available in shops today. His part in it deserves some place in this article.

Thanks for your cooperation Hero1701 03:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Hero, You are obviously a big fan and have an interest in catagorising these time frames, but the bio doesn't need those headlines, it would be better to catagorise things from decade to decade.

re: when he met Vallance, it is quite clear in the article when they met, and your thoughts on his vocal style are subjective.
re: Jim and BA working together, they still work regularly (four songs for the new album!).
re: new album. if you really think it's needed you can add something, but there is no real news other than it will probably be this year.
re: the band/album you keep mentioning. you have to understand this is absolutely not BA's work, is not in the shops and is only available as a bootleg on the internet. Lets drop that please.

Thanks again. You can always write to us on email if you like: info@bryanadams.com Michelle1

Bootlegs

Michelle, that's what I meant, decade to decade seems fine to me.

I'm not sure that my thoughts are so subjective; it is quite clear to hear on his first album and prior material that Adams sang in a much higher voice, and later, on You Want It - You Got It, he began singing in the "raspy" style he has used since. I believe that Jim Vallance even said something similar on his site. Your thoughts on this?
Great to hear that Jim and BA are working on songs for his new album, his work with Vallance is some of my favourite, but, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe this is the first time that BA has released a song written himself and Vallance since 'Waking Up The Neighbours'?
I think some info about the new album is a good idea, even if it's very little, it's better than nothing at all.
About the band I keep mentioning, I'm a bit confused at the problem we seem to be having, but the album I have is not a bootleg, I bought it last year in HMV, it's a genuine album. It's been repackaged as Sweeney Todd featuring Bryan Adams and was re-released in 2006, that's what the copyright date on the back says.

Hero1701 15:17, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Hero, I can absolutely assure you, it is an illegal bootleg and not an Adams recording. The bootleg you are refering to, has been packaged and re-packaged dozens of times to rip people like yourself off. The only offical releases of BA's work are with Universal Records, everything else is either a rip-off, and illegal download, or a bootleg recording. Michelle1

That doesn't make sense; HMV is the biggest high street music retailer in the UK, they don't sell bootlegs. If it was a bootleg, why would it be copyrighted to Sanctuary Records? And if it isn't a real record, how come one of the songs on it won a Juno award in 1977, and if Bryan Adams had nothing to do with the record, how come he accepted that award in 1977? Hero1701 20:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bryan Adams and Jim Vallance as co-writers for KISS

It is a little known fact that in 1982, Bryan Adams and Jim Vallance were co-writers with Gene Simmons for 2 KISS songs: Rock and Roll Hell and War Machine. Those two songs can be found on the album Creatures Of The Night from KISS. This could be added as trivia or something.