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Split proposal

{{split|Flag of Pennsylvania|Coat of arms of Pennsylvania}}

While the flag design is the coat of arms on a blue field, the COA has an extensive heraldic history separate from that of the flag, and the flag has modern vexillological history all its own.


Separating these pages would follow in the vein of 21 other "Seal on a bedsheet" flags that still maintain separate pages for their flag and seal/COA, such as:

Connecticut

Delaware

Florida

Kansas (includes a section about the seal but also maintains a separate page for the seal)

Kentucky

Louisiana

Maine

Massachusetts

Michigan

Minnesota

Missouri

Montana

Nebraska

Nevada

Oregon

South Dakota

Utah

Vermont

Washington

West Virginia

Wisconsin


In comparison, the current format of combining COA and flag pages is only found on six other pages, which may merit consideration of splitting as well (to maintain formatting conventions):

Idaho

Illinois

New Hampshire

New Jersey

New York

Virginia


This would also warrant either the the creation of a new page “Coat of arms of Pennsylvania", or merging of the coat of arms section with and Seal of Pennsylvania. Please discuss both.


The existing page Flag and coat of arms of Pennsylvania is redirected to from several other names. These could be divided among the two new pages as follows:

“Virtue, liberty, and independence" > “Coat of arms of Pennsylvania”

“Pennsylvania flag" > “Flag of Pennsylvania”

"Flag of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania" > “Flag of Pennsylvania”

"Coat of Arms of Pennsylvania" > “Coat of arms of Pennsylvania”

Thank you for your consideration. TheTaraStark (talk) 15:34, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support - The flag and coat of arms are distinct entities with their own history, each of which warrants its own article. There is no need for a user seeking the vexillological significance of the flag to have to wade through the finer points of the seal itself, and vice versa. Littledrummrboy (talk) 15:41, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]