User talk:Dethroned Buoy

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Hello, Dethroned Buoy, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially what you did for Federalist Party. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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October 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, adding content without citing a reliable source, as you did to Victoria (Australia), is not consistent with our policy of verifiability. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources, please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Bidgee (talk) 13:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting it into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other articles that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. Bidgee (talk) 01:56, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. Bidgee (talk) 02:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop any undiscussed page moves for now

I have received legitimate concerns over the amount and type of page moves you are making without discussion - despite attempts to converse with you on your talk page. I have been asked to block your account for now but I would rather at first that you stepped back from your edits and explained (clearly and with appropriate reasoning) your edits before you make any more. Please do so below this discussion point and I will point editors to your comments. Please note that if I have to block your account to get you to the discussion table I will but as I say above I would rather that you actually involved yourself in discussion than have to take such a drastic action. Please do not make any more page move edits until others understand your reasoning and come to some agreement with you. With thanks. --VirtualSteve ^{need admin support?} 08:19, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1) Statutory short titles (which can be found at the beginning of Acts) are canonical on Wikipedia. That means you do not add dabnotes to the title unless necessary. This is obvious and does not require discussion. For instance:

- There is, worldwide, only one "Children and Young Persons (Care and Protection) Act 1998". Ergo, the "_(NSW)" dabnote is superfluous. I would have moved it but the target has more than one edit, so I listed it WP:RM.
- There is only one "Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act 2003"; the (Qld) is superfluous.
- There is only one "Aboriginal Heritage Act 1988"; the (SA) is superfluous.
- The Flora and Fauna Guarantee Act 1988 had parentheses around the year. Upon examining the text of the Act, I found no parentheses. I duly moved the article to remove the parentheses.
- The Disability Discrimination Act 1992 is the only Act worldwide with that title; the dabnote is superfluous. Note that User:Rebecca had earlier moved it for what I imagine are precisely the same reasons.
- The Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara Land Rights Act 1981 had a comma in it. Upon examining the short title of the Act, I found no comma. I duly moved the article.

These are all self-evident and do not require elaboration, let alone discussion at WP:RM. If the dabnotes are to be reinstated, I expect that all state articles will be treated identically and have trailing dabnotes.

2) Few state acts require dabnoting. Those which do, for what should be obvious reasons, include Associations Incorporation Act 1981 (Queensland) and Associations Incorporation Act 1981 (Victoria).

3) Bidgee reverted one of my sourced edits, claiming it was unsourced. If you look here you will see that I change the population of Victoria, but I am borrowing the figure from the ABS, a link to which was in the text. Bidgee reverted the sourced edit and then warned me on this talkpage (see above) against "unsourced edits". I then edited the article to cite the source twice. Dethroned Buoy (talk) 09:27, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for commencing your discussion. I will ensure that Bidgee is aware of the above and I ask that you reach a state of agreement with him also.--VirtualSteve ^{need admin support?} 09:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- My main issue is that you don't include any reason (You should and it must have detail/comments rather then no comment or one word), make yourself clear (Rather then just saying superfluous, say why) and articles that have been moved in the past (it's in the article's log) should have a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves, discussion on the talk page (If no one replies in 7 days it should be save to move if no one objects) and when someone reverts your move don't revert back and block the page by adding a template as it's disruptive and not helpful to the community. Bidgee (talk) 14:51, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The core issue here is that we disagree on the controversialness of page moves where the dabnote is superfluous. We are just going to have to agree to disagree on that. I am not going to go to the time and trouble of listing what are routine pagemoves at WP:RM. You seem to be under the misapprehension that even routine pagemoves should be listed at WP:RM. That is not the case; if it were, the move function would not be available to non-admins. If you would like to list my moves at WP:RM to have them moved back, you are quite welcome to do so.

The less potential for controversy, the less explanation I will make for a pagemove. My moves were utterly uncontroversial, so I made little to no editorial comment. When I say "superfluous", I think it was self-evident what was superfluous about the page name (examination of the differences between the old and new page names would make it obvious, in any case). If the superfluity in question is not immediately obvious to you why, that is your fault and your problem, not mine; it seems to be quite obvious to everyone else.

I draw your attention to the edit note for the pagemove I listed at WP:RM. The rationale is the same as the one I have articulated.

Is there anything else anyone would like to add before I consider the matter closed? Dethroned Buoy (talk) 07:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. Please do not take umbrage when another editor asks you questions - this is a community and such discussions greatly assist the encyclopaedia. Given what appears to be an extensive (and alternate) history here I'm sure you have come across questions from other editors before. Best wishes and happy editing.--VirtualSteve ^{need admin support?} 22:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I remove my warning

I have undid my undo of your edits..--Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 14:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Tasmania legislation

Category:Tasmania legislation, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Satu Suro 23:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

October 2010

This is your last warning; the next time you make personal attacks on other people, you will be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Bidgee (talk) 06:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Scientician"

Please explain this redirect to a page that does not mention the word "scientician". -- Hoary (talk) 14:27, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's an idiom from the episode. Dethroned Buoy (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Good, thank you. -- Hoary (talk) 00:09, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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