Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Templates (articles)
 | Note: New versions of the templates based on this discussion have already been implemented, on 24 March 2008. |
Reasons for changing speedy-delete template wording:
- Correspond more closely with the criteria for speedy deletion (CSD)
- Brevity/clarity
- Avoid using italics in a way that might imply a direct quote of the CSD
- Often saying "(See CSDXX)" rather than just "(CSDXX)" to avoid implying a direct quote
Implementation:
- To delete "The reason given is:", for brevity, transclude new template Template:speedybase instead of Template:db-meta.
It's suggested that discussion take place at:
- Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Templates (general)
- Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Templates (articles) (i.e. this page)
- Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Templates (images)
- Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Templates (other) (redirects, categories, userpages, templates, portals)
- General discussion: WT:CSD
- Links to previous discussion can be found here.
(Moonriddengirl and Coppertwig.)
People may edit the table and change the suggested wordings. Comments section is below the table.
Table
[edit]| Criterion for speedy deletion | Current template wording | suggested wording | New! summary parameter (wording for edit summary of deletion log) | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| a1 nocontext Template:db-a1/new Template:db-a1/doc | No context. Very short articles lacking sufficient context to identify the subject of the article. Example: "He is a funny man with a red car and makes people laugh." Context is different than content, treated in A3, below. | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The reason given is: It is a very short article lacking sufficient context to identify the subject of the article. (CSD A1) | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as a very short article lacking sufficient context to identify the subject of the article. (See CSD A1) | Lacking sufficient context to identify the subject. (CSD A1) |
| a2 foreign Template:db-a2/new Template:db-a2/doc | Foreign language articles that exist on another Wikimedia project. If the article does not exist on another project, use the template {{notenglish}} instead, and list the page at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English for review and possible translation. | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The reason given is: It is a foreign language article that was copied and pasted from another Wikimedia project, or was transwikied out to another project (CSD A2). | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as a foreign language article that exists on another Wikimedia project. (See CSD A2) | Foreign language article that exists elsewhere. (CSD A2) |
| a3 nocontent Template:db-a3/new Template:db-a3/doc | No content. Any article (other than disambiguation pages) consisting only of external links, category tags and "see also" sections, a rephrasing of the title, attempts to correspond with the person or group named by its title, chat-like comments, and/or images. However, a very short article may be a valid stub if it has context, in which case it is not eligible for deletion under this criterion. | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The reason given is: It is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, images, rephrasing of the title, chat-like comments or an attempt to contact the subject of the article (CSD A3) | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as a very short article lacking sufficient context to identify the subject of the article (CSD A1), containing no content whatsoever, or consisting only of external links, category tags, a "see also" section, a rephrasing of the title, an attempt to correspond with the person or group named by its title, chat-like comments and/or images (See CSD A3). | Very short article, or essentially no content (CSD A3) |
| a4 | (Placeholder to preserve numbering; merged with A3.) | |||
| a5 transwiki Template:db-a5/new Template:db-a5/doc | Transwikied articles. Any article that either consists only of a dictionary definition, has already been transwikied (e.g. to Wiktionary or Wikisource), or has been discussed at Articles for deletion with an outcome to move it to another wiki, after it has been properly moved and the author information recorded. | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The reason given is: It is an article that consists of a dictionary definition only that has been transwikied and the author information recorded. (CSD A5).}} | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as an article that is a dictionary definition or an article for which there is an Articles for deletion decision to transwiki, after it has been properly moved to Wiktionary or another wiki and the author information recorded. (See CSD A5). | Dictionary definition etc. which has been transwikied. (CSD A5) |
| a6 |
(Placeholder to preserve numbering; superseded by G10.) | |||
| a7 Template:db-a7/new Template:db-a7/doc | No indication of importance/significance. An article about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from questions of notability, verifiability and reliability of sources. A7 applies only to articles about web content or articles on people and organizations themselves, not articles on their books, albums, software and so on. Other article types are not eligible for deletion by this criterion. If controversial, as with schools, list the article at Articles for deletion instead. | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The reason given is: It is an article about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. (CSD A7) | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion as an article about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. (Not books, albums, software etc.; and not controversial such as schools. See CSD A7) | Does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. (CSD A7) |
| db-bio | (CSD A7) | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. The reason given is: It is an article about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. (CSD A7) | This page may meet Wikipedia’s criteria for speedy deletion. It is an article about a real person that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. | |
| a8 | (Placeholder to preserve numbering; superseded by G12.) |
Comments
[edit]I'm not so sure Template:Db-A7 needs to be directed to Db-bio. Bio implies relation to a single person as in a biography.. but the text of Db-A7 and Db-bio both also say "web content and organization", which aren't biographies. Db-A7 used to direct to Db-bio but back in December, after discussion, the consensus was that it be made into a generic WP:CSD#A7 template directly because of WP:CSD#A7 stating not just people but web content and organizations as well. For that discussion, see Template talk:Db-bio#Sanity check - ✰ALLSTAR✰ echo 21:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for your feedback. In response to your comment, I've placed a notice on the Twinkle talk page about these discussions, and I've moved the suggested wording above from db-bio to db-a7, and written a new, more specific wording for db-bio, i.e. about people only. --Coppertwig (talk) 22:17, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm also concerned about
{{Db-band}},{{Db-inc}},{{Db-web}}since they are obviously covered under the same Db-bio template.. that is they are a template that turns around and uses db-bio as the template. All of these templates have always confuzzled me. lol - ✰ALLSTAR✰ echo 22:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)- I see. I will think about these. --Coppertwig (talk) 03:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, {{db-person}}, {{db-band}}, {{db-inc}} and {{db-web}} all use {{db-a7}}. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- I see. I will think about these. --Coppertwig (talk) 03:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm also concerned about