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Pakistani rape gangs in UK

In these little british towns, almost all people are white british. The white british girls are the easy target for the foreign sex rings. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2800:484:7E80:1F00:F158:FA18:2C98:EE11 (talk) 06:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please only add what you can support with reliable sources, not what you think is true. See WP:V and WP:OR for the relevant guidelines. Sjö (talk) 06:25, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The victims were vulnerable children, in care. They were victimised because they were vulnerable, not because of the colour of their skin. Making it about 'race' provides an easy excuse to avoid giving such vulnerable people the care they deserve. The majority of child abuse in Britain is, unsurprisingly, carried out by people from the majority (i.e. 'White') population. AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:30, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Regarding the edit to Black Culture page

I saw the message and alteration on why the change, but there was a reason for the alteration I made as a historian, specifically African and African American historian.

If I may… Black Culture is not the same as African Culture, and this is confusing to many people. It’s not taking about black people as much as it is talking about specific “culture”. It is looked at as a full term, not separating words, similar to tennis shoe or basketball. Taking the words apart give different meaning.

African culture is founded within the continent of Africa, and the groups of that continent never in history referred to their cultures as “Black Culture”. Many didn’t and still don’t refer to themselves as Black. There cultures are such as Igbo culture, Zulu culture etc. per their ethnic groups.

Black Culture is what African Americans named their culture as it emerged at the Harlem Renaissance and in the 1960s, coming out of the United States of America. They named their culture Black Culture because they had already referred to themselves as Black, unlike anyone on the African Continent or Caribbean. The later to places only referred to themselves by their ethnic group.

This is noted is several historic documents and elders today around the globe. The issue isn’t if there are more black (as in race) around world. The point is that African American (Black American) (Black) in the USA and abroad refers automatically to African Americans because everyone knows the history and cultural context of Black Culture.

It has been an offense to call or rename “Zulu culture” or any other African or Caribbean CULTURE, Black Culture, when speaking of their ancient cultures. It is respectful to call it what it is, and not change it.

Black Culture is singular, not plural. African cultures are founded in Africa…. not saying by race many are not black, but a whole North side isn’t and many on the East are offended in being called Black. They are proud of their culture as Somali or Ethiopian Culture.

People move into America and assimilate into Black Culture (African American culture), but they know their birth ethnicity and ethnic culture of parents.

Ethnicity and broad “phenotype race” are different. We are black people by race(what we look like) but African Culture (really should say cultures), is different than Black Culture which emerged in the USA in the 1900s. The other cultures were already alive and thriving for thousands of years prior.

AA have always referred to themselves as Black ie. Black History Month, Black Panthers, Black… this is unlike any other. People who are not of the phenotype black may not know this, but if one searches anywhere, online or off, the words Black Culture pulls up African American. The words African culture pulls of the wonderful cultures that are thousands of years old, founded in Africa.


I am hoping you understand as I tried to explain as best I could. Thank you for your time. Be well. Sorry for any typos in this message because I didn’t look it over. 172.75.146.57 (talk) 21:01, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point and it would be valid if Black culture was an article. In articles, editors come to a consensus about the scope of an article, i.e. what should be included and what should be left out. A defined scope makes the article more readable and less confusing when the article is about one subject.
Disambiguation pages serve a purpose different from articles. The purpose of a disambiguation page (such as Black culture) is to direct a reader seeking information on a topic to the right page. This means that disambiguation pages contain links to articles on very different subjects. See for instance the page Black mold that links to three different molds, a musician's alias, a music album and a graphic novel series. That those links are found on the same page does not in any way suggest that they are the same. The links are there because someone typing "black mold" in the search bar is probably looking for something found in one of those links. Same with the page Black culture, where there should be links to what people are reasonably looking for when they search for "black culture". This would include the culture of black people in other countries than the US, and it is trivial to show that black culture does not always mean African American culture; that is a very US-centric viewpoint and Wikipedia seeks to present information from a global point of view. I hope that clears up any misunderstanding about what links on disambiguation pages mean. Happy editing!Sjö (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Help wanted with user.

Hi, a user you’ve recently had dealings with is continuing to post spam links on various pages. In my personal opinion the user should be banned. Looking at their edit history, shows they have no interest in making useful contributions and instead will continue to cause disruption. I’m not entirely sure the user isn’t a bot. Could you please assist? Kind regards Lukejordan02 (talk) 19:50, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth I don't think he is a bot, just a person with poor English and no understanding of Wikipedia. Sjö (talk) 08:25, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you revert my edits???

Why did you revert my edits when new IMF data proves that? And why didn't you revert edits to other Developed countries or do u only revert African countries? Nlivataye (talk) 11:06, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]