Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danielle Vasinova (3rd nomination)

Danielle Vasinova

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Renominating the article. Not meeting ACTOR or really GNG. I've reviewed the sources used, not much in RS, nor does this individual have anything beyond one-offs or bit parts. Oaktree b (talk) 02:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Oaktree b (talk) 02:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is the newest article I could find and it's very PROMO [1] and almost a year old at this point. No new sources turned up since our last time at AfD. Oaktree b (talk) 02:23, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
2 new sources found and added to the article. Check my comments below. Naomijeans (talk) 02:35, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Connecticut. Hey man im josh (talk) 04:13, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Looks like this article has a long, complicated history, but it seems like the subject now also has a long history of bit parts and is not really notable by ACTOR guidelines. The Courant source is OK, though, like many of the other references is promo'ish. 128.252.154.9 (talk) 16:35, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
To the IP Editor with no prior edits until today: what does it mean that the article had "Complicated history??" Do not make things up just to fill up space. The deletion history shows the subject once deleted in 2008, presumably when she didn't have as much credits or citations. Then it was nominated a few months ago but withdrawn, because the article was not yet completed. In what way is this a "long complicated history??" I also wonder if you have enough expertise to be voting here. Naomijeans (talk) 01:53, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(I am the anon IP you're addressing.) I've been editing WP since its early days and, by the looks of your homepage, since you were 4 or 5 years old. I retired from account-based editing because of the growing problems of bullying, accusations of bad faith, ad hominems, etc...of the kind somewhat similar to the way you just addressed me. Now, I just stop-by from time-to-time to weigh-in here and there. In older, more decorous days, this is the point where you would tender an apology for your grossly off-base assumption, especially since you yourself seem only to have been here at WP for a few months. Now, as to your concern: the article's history is ipso facto complicated because of its 3 AfDs and the fact that there still aren't enough acceptable sources that are not promotional, web cruft, etc., as well as the fact that she very obviously does not pass in the primary notability space of ACTOR. I don't know how this AfD will end, but I would urge you in the future to dial-down the snark and try to avoid making assumptions. Best. 128.252.154.1 (talk) 17:36, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The person who replied to you is the creator and primary maintainer of the article, if that's any hint as to where the snark is coming from. - Bkid ^Talk/_Contribs 03:50, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the subject meets WP:GNG. In addition to the existing citations, a search shows that TMZ[2] and People[3] cover the subject. desmay (talk) 02:19, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
TMZ isn't a reliable source, People is about the Shark Tank guy suing her as his girlfriend, not really about her either. Oaktree b (talk) 04:05, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - To the nominator: Firstly, it not accurate that there are no new news sources since a year ago, and that is not a valid reason for deletion. There is no such policy. Here are 2 recent articles I was able to find and she was also on cover of both these magazines: Grazia and DMH Magazine. She was also on the cover of Glamour, so based on WP:NMODEL she would qualify. These articles here will also mean she meets WP:BASIC: MAXIM, OK Magazine, Flaunt, Hardford Courant, Variaties.Naomijeans (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
She hasn't make any significant contribution to a field of entertainment, being on the cover of a magazine is what models get paid to do. Oaktree b (talk) 03:59, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Grazia is an interview and DHM is a bunch of photos with captions; first is a primary source, second isn't extensive coverage. Rest are about the same level of minimal coverage. Hartford Courant is also an interview, Variety is just her photo with a paragraph. She doesn't have a long article about her; she gives interviews and poses for photos, that's what models do. Oaktree b (talk) 04:01, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There were no substantial sources at the last AfD, if some have been created since then, they would help her notability. No new substantial articles have been published since the last AfD, most of the ones you've listed existed as of the last AfD and didn't help notability there. She didn't meet it then with the existing sources (including these ones), nothing has changed since then that would change her notability is what I'm saying. Oaktree b (talk) 04:07, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as we could use a few more editors to review sourcing which the nominator argues are totally inadequate for a Wikipedia article. I should note that I closed the last AFD with a decision to Draftify this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:59, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]