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The page top says ""Great Dying" redirects here. For the disease epidemics in the Americas brought by Europeans, see Native American disease and epidemics#European contact. There's a huge problem with that. If you go to the article Native American disease and epidemics#European contact it says nothing about the term "Great Dying." Zip! There should never be a redirect for a term that is not important enough to be mentioned several time in the article you are redirecting towards. It is very misleading to our readers. As it stands right now this redirect to European epidemics should be removed. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We'll see if it sticks. I removed it 2 days ago and was scolded by editor Hemiauchenia with them saying "You have obviously done no reading on this topic at all." Fyunck(click) (talk) 02:06, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Page size
The recent edit by Anteosaurus magnificus has increased the page size from 11,886 words to 12,799 words. Wikipedia:Article size recommends a maximum of 10,000 words. This is not a fixed limit, but the article could probably do with trimming by an expert as it most likely includes old edits covering research which has since been debunked. The page size guidance also suggests hiving off some sections into separate articles to improve readability. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:03, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think hiving off sections would be viable for this article, because all of them are intertwined with one another and having multiple separate articles would be much more confusing. You can't discuss the terrestrial extinction without talking about the effect of organic matter influx on marine extinction, for example, or look at PTME euxinia separately from SLIP volcanism, ocean acidification, or ozone layer degradation.
The PTME was the most important and significant event of the Phanerozoic eon, and quite possibly the entire history of life, and it's also one of the most heavily researched, so it exceeding limits designed for a typical page is to be expected. The pages for World War I, the Eastern Front of World War II, and the Pacific Theatre of World War II, for example, are far larger in word count than the PTME page is because their significance is rivalled by few other historical events; the PTME is to geology and palaeontology what those events are to history in terms of exceptional importance.
That being said, I think some of the sections can be axed, particularly "Combination of causes", which is redundant since the sections for the various causes already discuss their relationships and intertwining with one another, and "Supercontinent Pangaea", since the formation of Pangaea took place 85 million years before the PTME and was completely irrelevant to it. I plan on trimming the introduction a bit as well to remove redundancy. Anteosaurus magnificus (talk) 23:01, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Cause not 'unknown' according to Stanford site
The lead says that the precise cause is unknown, but according to this article from earth.stanford.edu, it "was caused by global warming that left ocean animals unable to breathe". The rest of the article goes into details about it. Mathglot (talk) 21:43, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]