Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2023–24 Vijay Hazare Trophy Group A

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The result was redirect‎ to 2023–24 Vijay Hazare Trophy. Consensus is split between the need to merge info and whether what's there is sufficient. History remains under the redirect should someone choose to merge it enabling both outcomes possible. Star Mississippi 18:11, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2023–24 Vijay Hazare Trophy Group A

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Redirect to 2023–24 Vijay Hazare Trophy, the content is already on that article and it is not notable enough for it's own article. Dr vulpes (Talk) 06:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC) I am also nominating the following related pages because they are almost the same just another part of the same tournament:[reply]

Dr vulpes (Talk) 06:45, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Cricket and India. Dr vulpes (Talk) 06:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 07:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious Keep: Absolutely bogus claim that the content is already on that article. The parent article only contains the points tables, and mainly links to the respective groups articles for the match scorecards, which is surely necessary. Since there are a lot of matches in the league, it would excessively increase the article size if separate groups articles were not created. See WP:SS and WP:SUMMARYHATNOTE. Robo^Cric Let's chat 08:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for linking to those guidelines they're useful but I don't think they really apply to this case. Instead of redirecting why not just merge them into one easy to read article like this 2015–16 Ulster Rugby season. The other group articles for other years lack any real substance they just contain basic information about what happened and external links to ESPN. Dr vulpes (Talk) 19:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to 2023–24 Vijay Hazare Trophy. It's an unnecessary WP:CFORK to have separate articles for each group, when the extra information like fixtures could just be added to the main season article. This is what we do for most other domestic cricket tournaments e.g. 2023 County Championship has all fixtures listed in main article, not 2 separate articles for each group/division. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:20, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:32, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Joseph2302. I looked in the respective articles, the only information that the articles contain that is not contained in the general one are various notes on the matches, definitely not requiring a separate piece. I think they should be Redirected--deletion seems too harsh, and redirection is more useful to users. AriTheHorse^{talk to me!} 02:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:14, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merging whatever can be reliably kept seems the best option as above. Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. I don't think the groups are important enough to have their own articles. A summary of each in the parent article will suffice. Most of the tournament coverage should be of the later rounds, and I would just use the group stage as little more than background. Batagur baska (talk) 01:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.