User talk:HandThatFeeds

Talk:Lucy Letby#RFC on Lead sentence

@HandThatFeeds:: Hi there and merry Christmas! I'm just messaging as, quite a while ago now, you were party to the discussion about the COI editor Richard D. Gill who was reported on ANI for advocacy in trying to portray Lucy Letby as wrongfully convicted: [1]. As you absolutely correctly said at the time: Lucy Letby is convicted, therefore until such a conviction is overturned she is considered guilty by every reasonable standard. Reliable sources will refer to her as guilty per that conviction. The neutral thing in this case is to refer to her as guilty, as that is how the facts stand. Saying she might be innocent is speculative and goes against Wikipedia's standards and processes, see WP:CRYSTAL. By your reasoning, we could never call someone guilty because they "may" be innocent. I'm afraid that's just not going to fly, and you're going to have to accept that.

But now some editors want to replace the first line that says "British serial killer and former neonatal nurse" to "is a British former neonatal nurse, convicted of the serial murder of seven infants and attempted murder of six others". So basically, they want to get rid of her being called a serial killer, on various grounds including "I don't think we can assert in Wiki's voice that she is a murderer". But surely, the place we decide where someone is guilty of a crime is in court, and having been convicted it is perfectly reasonable to describe her as a murderer in Wikivoice? I might understand it more if there were massive and consistent doubts about her conviction, but there isn't any any such wider doubts.

What I also think is quite improper is that the whole debate was started when the already-blocked Richard Gill apparently appeared again(!) to evade his block and suggest the whole intro be changed to claim she is just an "alleged" killer: [2] - EXACTLY the same wording he'd suspiciously been asking for on his own Twitter account!: [3]. So basically a blocked advocacy editor has got some people persuaded that we shouldn't call her a killer. It really just smacks of pro-Letby editorialising to me to not allow her to be referred to as a killer, surely that is the norm on Wikipedia, to refer to serial killers like Fred West, Steve Wright, Peter Sutcliffe and John Duffy and David Mulcahy as serial killers? 213.31.104.198 (talk) 10:57, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing that to my attention. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 13:29, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

The IP editor here is banned sockpuppet User:MeltingDistrict. I was expecting them at this RfC but I see they have become more underhand and rather than socking at the RfC this time, they are canvassing instead. I am sure you responded entirely in good faith and per your convictions, and thank you for your contribution to the RfC, but I shall now be raising this at ANI. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:33, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

That's valid. I hadn't bee following the page because I thought the issue was resolved, so i appreciated the note, but socking around a block is absolutely bad behavior. Taking them to ANI sounds appropriate. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 14:37, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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@Kyms2evil4u: You need to speak with medical and mental health professionals. This is not something people on Wikipedia can help you with. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 10:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the ping...

I didn't see your last comment otherwise I wouldn't have pinged you for further comment. Sorry about that. Nemov (talk) 18:52, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Here, take this for being overall awesome at ANI! - The Master of Hedgehogs (always up for a conversation!) 17:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 17:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

You are most certainly welcome! - The Master of Hedgehogs ^{(always up for a conversation!)} 20:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

How is "I did everything right" a WP:NOTTHEM?

In case when a TBANned user believes that the reason given for their TBAN is incorrect or not applicable to their conduct, would you expect their appeal to look any different from "I did everything right" detailing the specific circumstances? In particular, would you expect such an appeal to include "an explanation that they understand what they did wrong" even though they believe that they didn't? Crash48 (talk) 15:09, 29 January 2024 (UTC)