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Alleged electoral manipulation in Pakistan

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The originator of this article has been blocked for sockpuppetry, and the content from previous socks has been shown to be biased, lacking in neutrality as they admit in their unblock request that they were here with a political agenda of exposing something instead of building encyclopedia. These subjects are already addressed in articles on Military coups in Pakistan, and each election article discusses allegations of rigging such as here. Several other editors have also expressed concerns, such as content failing verification. With such a vast article, it's impractical for anyone to meticulously review every piece of content against numerous sources. Therefore, it would be wise to delete it, saving volunteers countless hours. WP:TNT might apply here. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 16:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and Pakistan. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 16:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Personally I was inclined to keep but given the massive damage done to this article by a separate sockpuppet I am inclined to support a delete or a massive rewrite, preferably one that focuses less on history rather than the methodologies allegedly used. Borgenland (talk) 16:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Borgenland:, we can easily recover the old versions [1]. 23.156.104.104 (talk) 05:19, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, the last version before Bolt Kjerag tampered the 2024 election would be the last competent edition of this article. Borgenland (talk) 05:24, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Law, and Military. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:36, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Only sources 21 onwards seem to be about vote manipulation/rigging, rest are simply election results. I suspect there's a story here that could be written, but the sockpuppet and other issues in the nom don't leave me filled with hope. Likely TNT is the best option; a super enthusiastic editor could draft it and work from there, but this will be a long one to rework. Oaktree b (talk) 21:10, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. FWIW, WP:TNT is an essay and article content does not determine notability. What matters is that the topic is notable as independent coverage exists and the article has already been reviewed by @Bastun: [2]. It is very lazy to say that just because the article is long, so I won't review it. I'd suggest to revert it back to the version Bastun reviewed.

Majeed, Zohaib Ahmed (February 7, 2024). "Ranking the 5 'dirtiest' elections in Pakistan history". DAWN.COM.
Mufti, Mariam (June 19, 2018). "Who rigs polls in Pakistan and how?". Herald Magazine.
Asif, Muhammad; Khan, Tariq Anwar; Khan, Muhammad Fahim (2021). "Electoral malpractices in Pakistan: Facts and events of political instability". Pakistan Journal of International Affairs. 4 (4).
There is a complete book about this topic called Electoral Malpractices. See [3].
Weinbaum, M. G. (1977). "The March 1977 Elections in Pakistan: Where Everyone Lost". Asian Survey. 17 (7): 599–618. doi:10.2307/2643408 – via JSTOR.

Thanks. 23.156.104.104 (talk) 04:58, 27 February 2024 (UTC) — 23.156.104.104 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Keep There were & there are alternatives to deletion available instead of outright deleting this pg. While it's true that this pg needs significant work,but per WP:PROBLEM, deletion shouldn't be used as a form of punishment. @Borgenland: You remember this discussion ? The same sock puppet who added the messy content to this pg also added some unveriable OR material to the main election pg, but with some effort, it was cleaned up. The same approach should be taken here. Someone needs to step up and clean it up, maybe me (but not sure when) but let's not disregard the efforts of those who have contributed to this page at some point, including yourself. --Saqib (talk) 10:39, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is why I was also two-ended in my comment. By the way, someone has been making a branch article called Allegations of rigging in the 2024 Pakistani general election. Hopefully it is a better-made article that can survive scrutiny. Borgenland (talk) 10:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Saqib. BBC Urdu recently covered this important topic as well ([4]). 103.148.128.128 (talk) 09:50, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]