User talk:Robert L Gee
April 2024
Hello, I'm Sumanuil. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to North Sea oil have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 03:07, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Sumanuil, thanks for the message.
- It was really just for the accuracy of the name, and to add that the Uk PM has issued a large quantity of Scottish North Sea Oil Licenses. (both correct)
- You say it's not constructive, -that sounds a bit vague. Could you be more specific?
- Many thanks Robert L Gee (talk) 04:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Robert L Gee, for one thing, changing the file to "File:Scotland's North Sea oil and gas fields.svg" entirely broke the image, because that just isn't the name of the file. Second, the claim that the North Sea entirely belongs to Scotland is not supported by the reliable sources in the article. Alyo (chat·edits) 03:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Samanuil, thanks for your reply.
- I think you'll find that the territory where the oil comes from is indeed a Scottish sea territory, (I checked) both geographically and legally, thus it belongs to Scotland.
- It is sold by Englands Parliament in London, with the monies collected via the British Treasury, but the oil is in fact Scottish, as it does not originate from either England nor Norway. Most of the companies who actually do the oil retrieval are internationally owned with the former 'BP' (British Petroleum) now no longer primarily 'British' with at least five main shareholding companies.
- I really do feel after checking the facts of this that this is something that needs correcting, or at the very least expanding upon in order to correct this for the sake of accuracy.
- Thank you again
- Robert L Gee Robert L Gee (talk) 12:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please link to sources backing up your statement, particularly "...geographically and legally, ... it belongs to Scotland." I don't see anything about that. Alyo (chat·edits) 15:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sure of course ALYO.
- These three references (below) are from the Scottish Government:
- 1)
- https://marine.gov.scot/data/facts-and-figures-about-scotlands-sea-area-coastline-length-sea-area-sq-kms
- https://www.gov.scot/publications/marine-planning-regional-boundaries/
- https://www.environment.gov.scot/media/1233/water-scotlands-seas.pdf
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- 2)
- In 1999 ALYO, a big part of Scotlands Sea Territory and therefore the oilfields that go with that were transferred, without consultation, to being a territory of England; if this region of Sea didnt belong to Scotland, why would they bother to make a covert legal transfer of approx 6000 square miles to England in 1999?
- They (the English Government in London) made the Transfer to England, because the territory and the accompanying mineral rights associated, were Scotlands.
- 'Scotlands Stolen Seas" -by Craig Murray, former British Ambassador and Whistleblower:
- https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/01/scotlands-stolen-seas-technical-explanation/
- Geographically, The Scottish North Sea is a Scottish Sea territory. If and when the Scottish people decide to depart the United Kingdom, (-like England departed from the EU in January 2020, Scotland voted to remain) they will in fact, take their Scottish Oil with them.
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- 3)
- Dennis Healy (former Uk Chancellor) gave an interview to a journalist for the English newspaper The Guardian;
- https://www.theguardian.com/politics/scottish-independence-blog/2013/may/29/scottish-independence-oil-healey
- Mr Healy seemed very convinced the Oil and the Sea it came from were very much Scotlands, even until his death.
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- 4)
- News network 'Bloomberg' broadcast an interview with American, Jim Rogers, one of the world's foremost investors who founded The Quantum Fund with George Soros. Here in this clip Mr Rogers cites what is likely to happen, or what would have happened if the Scottish had elected to depart the United Kingdom in 2014; much to the agitation of the English lady in the red dress, sitting adjacent.
- 'If the Scots leave the why wont Sterling go to 80c? If the Scots leave Francine...without the Scottish Oil... England doesnt have much to sell to the outside world anymore...."
- -Jim Rogers
- (Bloomberg Clip 2:00 mins)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYzvUpoRsCU
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- 5)
- From the BBC; Again, Jim Rogers talking on the BBC about Scotland departing the Uk and taking 'their oil' with them.
- (From BBC 2016: 5 min. Clip)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNMUPIsQjf4
- Hope that is useful
- Robert L. Robert L Gee (talk) 00:29, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi AYLO, did you get my message?
- thanks
- Robert L Robert L Gee (talk) 13:52, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- All of those links still only refer to the Scottish/UK EEZ's. They don't own the entirety of the North Sea. Q T C 02:09, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please link to sources backing up your statement, particularly "...geographically and legally, ... it belongs to Scotland." I don't see anything about that. Alyo (chat·edits) 15:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Robert L Gee, for one thing, changing the file to "File:Scotland's North Sea oil and gas fields.svg" entirely broke the image, because that just isn't the name of the file. Second, the claim that the North Sea entirely belongs to Scotland is not supported by the reliable sources in the article. Alyo (chat·edits) 03:21, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at North Sea oil. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Lynch44 (talk) 01:34, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- HI Lynch44, thanks for the response.
- I am not trying to be disruptive, apologies if it appears otherwise, no disrespect.
- I am waiting for another editor to get back to me. This is only the second edit that I have made on wiki so I am still fairly new, but my evidence which I have supplied sources for are legitimate and factual, from respected, legitimate sources. Thank you, Rob L. Robert L Gee (talk) 03:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)