Talk:Surayud Chulanont

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Prime Ministerial appointment references?

Hi can someone add some references? I'm on a sprint at work and don't know how to do it properly.

  * http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/afx/2006/09/28/afx3053954.html
  * http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/4223033.html

Kanatcha 04:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Portrait image is candidate for speedy deletion

The current image used in the infobox (Surayud_Chulanont.jpg) unsourced and unlicensed. It is most probably taken from somebody else's work. It will be deleted within 7 days. Either replace it with something compatable with Wikipedia's license or don't use a photo. Patiwat 08:16, 2 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the 'enough economy' and I've replaced it with 'sufficiency economy'instead. By the way, I thought that was the only mistake. I scrolled down just to see that there are millions of grammatical mistakes and the information setting requires a total clean-up task. Far from wikipedia' standard. I haven't the time. Anyone, please. Rachmaninoff

Neutrality and Cleanup

The grammar and setup of this article is atrocious, and there are instances of blatant opinion. One example of both: "Some may misunderstanding this as drawback to aricultureal, but it is not!!!" Someone who knows more about the subject needs to fix this article badly. The worst is 'sufficiency economy' but there are problems with the other sections of the article as well: "He like to travel for 2 or 3 days in the forest since young. He also do many activities to protect nature and is the president in an Khao-Yai Natural Park association." SLC1 05:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SLC1, you'd better find out more accurate information first before blindly criticizing me for rectifying one of the sections to 'sufficiency economy' as 'worst grammatical mistake '. I was simply quoting the official name of the philosophy of H.M. King Bhumibol Adulyadej. Check this out at http://www.sufficiencyeconomy.org or try to google it using the name. Whatever it is, SLC1, I think that your intellect has got more problems than this article, sorry, if it ever exists. Rachmaninoff

*I wasn't criticizing the title, I have no knowledge of Thai politics or economics. Rather I was criticizing the content which is presented as a defense of the sufficiency economy, as opposed to Wikipedia's NPOV, and with poor English at that. I apologize for any confusion. SLC1 05:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That section was POV, original research, not related to the subject of the article, improperly written, and cited no references. I have deleted it. If you want to write a section on the Sufficiency Economy philosphy of King Bhumibol Adulyadej, then write it in the article on King Bhumibol Adulyadej. Patiwat 23:50, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poll numbers

By early November, this fell to 55% approving and 15% disapproving [of Surayud as PM]. For comparison, a nation-wide poll in July 2006 found that 49% of respondants would have voted for Thaksin Shinawatra in the cancelled October elections.

These two numbers are not comparable. There is no way Surayud would get anything like 55 percent of the vote if he ran as a candidate in an election. The editor appears to draw the conclusion that Surayud is more popular than Thaksin was, which is ridiculous. What was the approval rating for Thaksin (or Chuan, or Anand) a month after their appointment as PM? The would make more sense as a comparison. Kauffner 15:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Surge in drug use under Surayud

Every Thai I've talk to about Surayud complains about the upsurge in drug use since Thaksin left. I haven't noticed anything myself, but I've talk to drug usage consulars, people who should know. There is nothing about this in the article now -- I hope we can change it. Kauffner 18:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen any published references on this so far. Patiwat 17:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Misc articles

Surayud govt's rating drops. Patiwat 17:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why the POV tag?

An editor placed the POV tag on the article. Please give provide some concrete examples of POV. Patiwat 15:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality Issue

There is a serious neutrality issue here and seems to come from one particular person. It is quite obvious for most Thais that the contents are one-sided and only bash Sarayud and the current government. The level of bias is so high, instead of convincing, it rather undermine the article's integrity. Most of the references are selective and put together to suit the motive. For example, the quote from Karun Chandrarangsu saying that the govn't is not doing anything only to blame others. Karun is a close relative to Srisuk Chandrarangsu whom used to sit in AOT board and being investigated for several scandles. Moreover Karun was a party-list MP candidate for Thai Rak Thai party in one of the previous election. It is questionable where Karun's position stands. A quote from someone with such close tie with the previous government is not really a credible one at all. Moreover, there are no mentions of any corruption and scandle investigations on previous government despite being one of the current government key implementation. Omala HD 18:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who is neutral? I don't think the phase "It is quite obvious for most Thais that the contents are one-sided" is helpful, the author should speak for his or herself unless they some real evidence of what 'most Thais think' can be provided. In fact, the writer weakens their own point by making this assertion as it sounds like propaganda and brings their neutrality into question. Any government, particularly one that comes to power force of arms will be open to critism of their motives and it is up to them to demonstate their good faith by actions. Most Thai people that I know have serious concerns about the new government, but still hope for the best. (User: Pet Dane) 20/4/2007 15:47

This article is on Surayud Chulanont, not the previous government, its alleged crimes, or the investigations of Khunying Jaruvan. To learn more about the these topics, the reader should see the articles on Jaruvan Maintaka#Assets Examination Committee or Thaksin Shinawatra#Legal charges. Also note that Jaruvan's work is totally independent of Surayud - she was appointed directly by Big Boss Sonthi. Surayud has nothing to do with it.
If you have any alternative references that you'd like to add to the article, go ahead! I'm not stopping you. But if you've read the newspapers for the past several months, it seems that praise for Surayud is very thin. I've tried to add as many as I can, but there really aren't that many. Even Phoojatkarn criticizes Surayud.
It would be just as inapproprirate to remove a reference to the Surayud-critic on this article, as it would be to remove a reference to a Thaksin-critic in a Thaksin article. Again, if you have any material and references that praises Surayud, go ahead and add them. Patiwat 06:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]