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Why you take out characters

wouldnt the the ground leaders of second book be important ~agentheartlesspain

From what I remember, they were already in the article. Now that I checked back, it looks like they were removed a while back. Annoying. I'll go see if I can dig up the original information and put it back in the article. Peptuck 06:13, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Covenant (Halo)

Fine, you made your point, it's a part of the universe.

But that wasn't the point of my edit. It was unsourced, undocumented original research. Post it back on once you've found a hard source to cite regarding it. Read the talk page. This page needs to be cut down severely and I'd appreciate it if you waited to revert the edits until they were discussed. I'm being more than becoming involving this, given the popularity of the topic. let me make my subsequent revisions, then we can discuss what should go back on once you've found sources to cite. (( for the sake of continuity, lets keep this discussion on your talk. i have your talkpage watched, so reply to this directly and I'll see it )) // 3R1C 16:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[1]
HSP: Our HSP timeline was constructed using the two Xbox.com timelines and the novels, primarily. How accurate is it? If you compare this timeline and your own internal, 'story bible' one, are there any significant differences, aside from things that we haven't seen yet from Halo 2?

JS: You missed some dates - well, not dates per se. More like blocks of time:

Age(s) of Abandonment Age(s) of Conflict Age(s) of Discovery Age(s) of Reconciliation Age(s) of Conversion Age(s) of Doubt Age(s) of Reclamation

Fair enough, I'll mention the ages. If you have access to IRC, I'd like to speak to you in real-time regarding this article. If not, you can try me on AOL IM: belgianrofliron. Please IM me if you can spare the time. I'd love to see this article go FA. Maybe. // 3R1C 16:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nah. I'll just let you do your thing. Most of what I did was just my reflexive "someone's removing stuff from the article! REVERT!" mentality. I'll swing through later on and see how its coming.
OK. Thanks for the trust. Much appreciated. I would more than love to split these section into new articles (being a big inclusionist), but most of wikipedia are deletionists and don't like articles like that. Know of a good halo wiki? haha // 3R1C 16:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I know of a Halo wiki. A good Halo wiki?...not so much >.> Peptuck 16:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I need your input: Are the beings that make up the Covenant specifically called "species" of the covenant, or is it more appropriate to call them "races?" Species seems to imply that they might be related somehow further up the chain of Linnaean taxonomy. I think races is more appropriate, because being an alien race, we can't classify them by that nomenclature. So, in short: races or species? // 3R1C 16:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Both in-game and in out-of-universe sources call them "species", so that's what I'd go with.
Works for me. // 3R1C 16:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A welcome from Master of Puppets

Hello, Peptuck, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions; I hope you like the place and decide to stay. We're glad to have you in our community! Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Happy editing!

P.S. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you need help with anything or simply wish to say hello. :) _-M o P-_ 05:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC) [reply]

Hierarchs

Oops, missed the 'r'. Thanks for fixing and moving the articles :D --Bronzey 06:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a wikignome for a reason. :P Peptuck 06:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Halo Graphic Novel

Hi, you know me for the person who put this error back up

"*Breaking Quarantine - Tsutomu Nihei said in the creator comments section at the end of Breaking Quarantine section, that he used the "Halo's inner structure as part of his reference for his illustrious". Unfortunally many people have picked up that when the Flood form of Jenkins attacks Johnson, the place where Johnson lands in the next panel is not outside the door, as the comic shows. To actually get to the room where Johnson landed, from the location of where Keyes, Johnson and the rest of the Marines met the flood for the first time, Johnson would have to go back up a ramp, go through a few rooms and corridors before he ended up in a room like the one he did."

Now really i feel this is very relevant, and instead of putting it back up and commenting, take down, commenting and reptition, i wish to try resolve this here if i may.

You posted "Breaking Quarantine does not start at the room where Keyes was attacked by the Flood" if that is true where does it exactly start?

From where the game's video recording ended to the comic, in my opinion it is precise, it picks up from Johnson and Jenkins struggling with the infection forms, where Keyes and the other where ambushed. It doesn't appear Johnson had ran off to leave his comrades to die. Granted Jenkins is not named or a close up of the helmet, or any piece of item/clothing to tell us the name of the soldier, but who else could that soldier be?

"The helmet itself is inconclusive; any number of Marines in the facility could have been wearing helmets like that"

That is true but Jenkins was the only one with Johnson when he was attacked, so logically assuming; it must be Jenkins.

I refute thee by simply pointing out that the room that Johnson and the unnamed Marine are in contains no bodies of Marines, nor of Keyes or a myriad of infection forms. It cannot be the room that the squad was attacked in because of this. There were still other Marines alive during the end of the video, and yet we see no more Marines in that room in Breaking Quarantine. Thus, it has to have happened after Jenkins died.

The unnamed Marine has no nametag on his helmet, so we have no idea if it suppossed to be Jenkins or another Marine who happens to be wearing a helmet. It makes more sense that this is another room and that the Marine is simply one of the many other Marines who happen to have helmets.

I can also point out that in the video where Keyes and his team are attacked, Jenkins falls down on his back at the end of the video and is covered by infection forms. This Marine is still standing when the comic begins.

Simply put, it makes more sense that Breaking Quarantine does not begin in the room where Keyes is attacked; there's no evidence that its the same room, the same event, or that the Marine in question is even Jenkins. Peptuck 05:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That is a possibility about Johnson with another marine in a different area, but isn't that in itself a "Continuity" error, with there being a question mark above how Johnson got out of the room with Keyes and co, to the other room that you are saying. The story does say that it shown how he escaped the flood (but that is not a lot of help given to us, is it).

Now if we disregard the characters Jenkins, Keyes etc. for the moment, except Johnson; and get back to the error, (I believe we have delved into the characters a bit much and not the structure) I have recently replayed the game and I found that, to get to the place that Johnson landed after being hit, (this is from any other room on the Installation) you need to pass through a square corridor (depicted in pages 76 - 78) which connects each area with one another to get to the room where Johnson landed. The comic depicts a large room that the first scene happened in, there is another type of passage (the area above the Keyes ambush room + others) but that is too small for that scene to have happened in.

I guess if we ever truly want to find out if that marine is really Jenkins or just a random soldier, we would properly have to ask Bungie or the creator. --WarDragon 01:39, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Halo 3

The Working Man's Barnstar
For keeping the Halo 3 page factual and clean of nonsense from James086 06:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Halo Wars

If there was a gnome barnstar, I'd give it to you. Anyway, I'm thinking the non-LAAG hog might just be one of those special varients that were being thrown around before Halo 2 (remember the transport Hog, Arctic Hog, etc). And the dropship, it seems new... it has a door on the side rather than a bay. What do you think? Bronzey 04:43, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix class

There actually is a Phoenix class ship, the Spirit of Fire from Halo Wars is one, but as yet there's no mention of whether it's a frigate, destroyer, etc. So, you were justified in removing that edit to United Nations Space Command - it's just that if someone does edit it and puts a Phoenix class designation there, it does exist. Bronzey 03:47, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aha. Thanks for the heads-up. I forgot about the Spirit of Fire being one of those ships. Peptuck 04:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Major Domo

Hi, do you know what a major domo is? Majordomo (domestic staff). Generally speaking, if all the red elites were major domos that would be a very unusual state of affairs. WookMuff 06:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm well aware of what "Major Domo" means in normal, human context, but that doesn't change facts. Perhaps you should take this up with Bungie and Eric Nylund, who stated the rank's name in Halo: Ghosts of Onyx? Peptuck 07:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, I think that couts as "in-universe." I know this is subject necro'ing, but would it be possible to find an ... earthly equivalent? // 3R1C 16:14, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what you mean by that. If you mean an actual source, Halo: Ghosts of Onyx states the rank rather explicitly, and I directly sourced it on the Covenant page.
What I mean is something ... that exists equivalently in our society. The Majordomo in the Covenant is most closely related to ... what ... in human terms. Is Majordomo more of a rank (such as a sergeant or a lieutenant)? Or is it more of a social caste? // 3R1C 16:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. In that case, from what we can see in the games and novels, they appear to be roughly around the level of field commissioned officers or senior enlisted officers. Its not really made clear how high up in the chain the Major Domo Elites are....they're just higher up than Minors, who command lesser Covenant soldiers. Peptuck 16:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. So we mention both. I don't think there's a problem specifying the Covenant equivalent of everything (names in their language). So we call them major domos and we state that they are approximately the rank of..? A US marine captain? I think most appropriately to draw from a Marine force, given their typical deployment from ships. Also, you might want to consider making a subpage on your talk for Halo :P // 3R1C 16:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In recognition...

The Original Barnstar
To Peptuck, the Original Barnstar for excellent edits, input, and additions to the Halo universe here on WP. If there was a gnome one, I'd give it to you too. Peace out chap. David Fuchs 01:22, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GoO spoilers... everywhere!

Hi. Not that I'm specifically targeting you or anything, but I haven't read the book yet and there's an awful amount of Ghosts of Onyx spoilers around (i.e. this talkpage) and also other talk pages (Halo 3, etc) that kinda ruin the story for people who haven't read it. I have to try to not read certain sections, which is a little difficult. Anyway: is there any chance you could take that stuff off your talk page? I only have until January to wait :( Bronzey 11:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops. Well, the good news is that most of what I've mentioned isn't really spoilers, except what's on the Forerunners and Spartan-II and Spartan-III pages. I guess I fifgured most Halo fans would have finished the book by now :P Perhaps we should spoiler tag this stuff? Peptuck 15:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
NOES! Spartan III?!!?! Ah well. Kinda knew that was gonna be in there. If you wanna spoiler tag your talk page, well :P Bronzey 03:29, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: The supercharged 800 horsepower Titano-Grade Mongoose Supreme for twelve foot tall men.

Is this able to be added to the confirmed elements section? WookMuff 04:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

XD Peptuck 06:37, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Master Cheif "College Years"

Just so that you know, in the future, you can tag pages that are blatantly vandalism and that aren't worth redirecting with {{db-vandalism}} or one of the other speedy deletion templates. — TKD::Talk 01:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aha. I knew I could do soemthing like that, but I wasn't sure how to go about it. Thanks!Peptuck 08:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MAC gun

why did you remove the designation from the mac gun? WookMuff 21:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where? (more likely than not, it was probably an accident while reverting incorrect data) Peptuck 02:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The covenant page, i believe. As much as i dislike the novels counting as canon, according to the MAC page its referenced in ghost's of onyx or first strike or some such. WookMuff 06:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit glitch

I saw this "edit" by you and knew right away it was obviously a mistake. No one has worked harder than you to keep this article clean of vandalism.

It looks like you were edit conflicted while trying to remove some other vandalism and accidentally restored this edit. It happens to the best of us, but just wanted to make you aware of it in case you get a {{test1}} notice from some newbie. Have a great one! -- Satori Son 20:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry 'bout it. Its fully understandable why a misunderstanding like that can happen :D Peptuck 06:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Peptuck, I have a serious problem with your recent edits to FF8. No offense but could you stop acting like you own the FF8 pages and everyone has to earn your approval to write their edits to your pages. Second, I have a problem a problem with your constant obsession with the words "Primary antagonist or Primary protagonist. There's an easier solution, and one that has sources which you love so much. "Squall is the silent hero of FF8." If you don't know that then you haven't played 8 and therefore have no right to comment on it. It stays in the game manual that he is the "taciturn and reluctant hero" (or something like it), so if you or anyone changes it, I'll be ticked off seriously. Third, your changes to the pages are worse than they were previously not better. Could you just leave 8 alone, could you haven't improved I'm afraid? Sorry if I sound ticked off, but it is because I am. If you'd like to reply, I'll answer on your page. -Eileen-

I'm an aggressive editor. Do not confuse aggression with an assertion of ownership. A simple check of the Halo pages on Wikipedia will show that. Secondly, I have a very, very strong bent against speculation; much of the information I tend to remove is speculatory material with no sourcing, and thus original research, which is per Wikipedia policy. Pretty much everything that I removed on the List of Final Fantasy VIII characters page was speculation and fan theory. I'm subjecting Final Fantasy VIII to the same treatment I've subjected to Halo. Third, Squall is not a silent protagonist. The source you yourself just cited says he's a taciturn and reluctant, but not silent, hero. He also is the primary protagonist of the story.
I'm sorry if I'm annoying you, but I am merely enforcing Wikipedia policy. I will continue to remove unsourced speculation and original research per that policy. Peptuck 06:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry I nailed you so hard, I was just kinda ticked off but I see your point although I don't agree with some of your edits. Check out the Talk: List of FFVIII characters an example about Ultimecia and my reasons why I think it should stay. I agree with you about most original research but sometimes I would make exceptions. I hope you keep original Ultimecia/Rinoa theories off Wikipedia, that theory really gets to me and I hate it wholeheartedly, no offense if you like it. I love Halo too! -Eileen-

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Gold elite 2.jpg)

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Halo Graphic Novel 2

Hello, I'm currently focusing on overhauling and improving the Halo Graphic Novel Wikipage to bring it in line with the high quality present in the main Halo article and Halo 2 article, and I noticed you were a keen editor on the Halo articles and instrumental in keeping them in line with the tone of Wikipedia. Consequently I was wondering whether you'd be able to assist me or provide some advice on the process of improving the article. I currently have the bare bones of the potential future article on my user talk page HERE. I'm hoping to exorcise some of the long-winded notes the article currently has without completely gutting it. As you can tell I have only just begun, and I dread the overhaul may become bogged down in the editting process by attempts from various parties to insert information irrelevant to all but the dedicated fan, but nevertheless even at this stage any advice you can give - however small - is greatly appreciated. Thankyou. Qjuad 05:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You deserve another

The Halo WikiProject Heroic Barnstar
For reverting fancruft and vandalism to all Halo-related articles, I hereby award Peptuck this (unofficial) barnstar of Halo-godliness. Dåvid Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 22:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please Don't Erase

You had erased the image of Arbier without his suit. Please don't do it since I received it from Halopedia.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Master Cheif 001 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Halopedia has significan't policy differences with Wikipedia regarding the use of copyrighted images. It doesn't matter anyway, because the image is going to be orphaned, and then in a week it'll get removed. Please be sure to read wikipedia's policy on copyrighted media. (note: sorry to interject on your usertalk, Peptuck, but I still have it on watch) // 3R1C 23:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you could tell me the relevence of this picture beyond incidental connections to the Arbiter, I'd not erase it. As it stands, it looks like another example of your fixation with nudity, judging by the edits in your IP's history page[2]. Peptuck 06:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please the reason the picture should be on their because it is part of the game. The nutidy thing is only what I follow by the games. Trust me you are a pretty cool Halo person but I don't understand at one point you put that picture of Arbiter without his suit in the covenant elite article and switced the other one and left it their and didn't care and besides that I uploaded both images that were very hard to get.

"it is part of the game" is not reason enough to include an image in an encylopedic article. If that were the case then one could just upload fifty images from the same one second video capture and put them in an article. It must have relevence to the article and help further enhance the article; how does a picture of the Arbiter without his armor help the Arbiter article?
And yes, the images were certainly very hard to get, especially as they are the same images Dojorkan posted on Halo.bungie.org a few months back.Peptuck 18:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but I put on the covenant elite article one that is different but demonstrates their phsiology and it is the perfect example and this is a encylopedia so it does help you understand so it should be alright to put one on the Arbiter article. Anyway you've been to halopedia?

The one that was in the Elite article is poorly lit and hardly shows anything useful. The one you've been using for the Arbiter page works far better for that one. As for the Arbiter article itself, what does it help you understand about the Arbiter that you wouldn't already know from reading the article? And yes, I've been to Halopedia, and I cry whenever I go there at their lax standards compared to Wikipedia. Peptuck 21:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Here here! // 3R1C 22:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway these pictures were uploaded by me and you also keep reversing them between articles and theone with Arbiter standing shows every part of his body. And the one in the Arbiter article shows his appearnce in that form. If your a Halo fan please don't erase I really mean no harm I mean come on the other articles are 5X worse than that picture. Lets get this clearly the reason I keep putting those two picture in on those two articles.

I am a Halo fan, but I am also a Wikipedian, and one of the important elements of Wikipedia is that we don't include every last detail. If it isn't informative and does not help the article, it doesn't need to be added. "Naked" Arbiter is barely relevant at all in the story beyond the fact that he was present for all of two cutscenes, and it had little bearing on his character. As for the images, the second one is very poorly lit; it barely shows anything of the Elite in question, while the Arbiter one does a much better job of displaying the Elite's physiology. Peptuck 05:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can we gat thisover with already. I never edited anything you put the articles. I only added on things to them. Can you please leave the pictures alone. I just want to keep them on here so we can get every peice of information about him.

[[:Image:Arbiter_kneeling_naked.png|thumb|left|400px|For example, you put this one with Arbiter naked in the covenant elite article but said when it was in the Arbiterarticle you said it was inapropaite. I understand we don't need every bit of information on him. But every picture in the article can give an idea from his Arbiter uniform,his supreme commander look from the book,his original gold uniform, and finally Arbiter without any armor. Even if he was only like that in few parts the game we need to understand it since bungie made it a skin in the game.]]

[[:Image:Naked_Elite.jpg|thumb|left|400px|This one I had in the covenat elite article. This one has an elite standing naked and you can see him from foot to head,this elite is actually Arbiter too. So you got rid of this one and put the one above there. Even if its to dark just click the picture and you will see a bigger image and it isn't dark. Or maybe we can have both images in the article one of Arbiter standing and the other kneeling. But I really want to have the one of him kneeling in The Arbiterarticle. I really mean no trouble if you agree we can get this over with. And if we get ridof this picture we won't have any other area to place this picture besides my own page under my images.]]

Please this has been going on long enough I really want these pictures in those articles. I mean we can discuss this further but can you please leave the pictures alone, we can work together on future articles too if that makes things better. I understand what your saying though. Master Cheif001 Come to my discussion page too.

I'm not leaving the pictures because you haven't demonstrated their relevance yet. Yes, there is a scene in the game where the Arbiter is missing his armor and has no clothes on. How does this help the article? How does it provide a visual aid, beyond "hey, here's a picture of the Arbiter from a small part of the game without any gear!" All you've said is that "its in the game." Look at other fictional character articles, such as Link. Do you see every iteration of those characters' gear in those articles? No, because it isn't necessary. The image of the Arbiter without his armor isn't necessary. If one wants to know what an Elite looks like minus their armor, they can go to the Elite page.

I've already said my piece on the Elite image: the Arbiter kneeling picture is better lit and shows just as much physiology. You can still see his legs, his feet, and most of his chest.

Now that I've said that, please take any further discussion of this to the Arbiter/Covenant Elite articles' respective talk pages; I will ignore any further discussion about this on my user page. Everyone should have a say in this, not just me. Peptuck 05:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, blanking my talk page is likely the ultimate sign of childishness. Peptuck 22:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

....vandalizing my Talk page is not going to help your cause in any way, you do know that, right? Peptuck 02:43, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully he chills out. God-forbid someone opens a request for mediation or something. Why do people get so dramatic on WP? -_- // 3R1C 21:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All right I'm sorry but I'm still upset because of what you did.Master Cheif 001 01:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Better Erase

Your talk page is getting huge! Better clean it up!Master Cheif 001 19:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh

Wasn't sure if it was a barcode or the nueral implant. I imagined the nueral implant would be hidden under the skin but I suppose not. Thanks for the fix. -Domovoi 18:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For some odd reason, only Hood's implant is visible, despite the fact that neural implants are standard issue in the UNSC.... Peptuck 18:37, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Characters

Oh it's okay. By the way, I'm having trouble seeing the Adel image; can you see it? — Deckiller 21:33, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its visible on my end. But then again, my computer is wierd; sometimes I can't see thumbnails either. Peptuck 21:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's probably evil FireFox; I checked in IE, and it worked. — Deckiller 22:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Halo 2 FAC

Hey man, I was wondering (if you have time) if you could help me with Halo 2. I nominated it for FA again, and basically the last issues we have are grammar, etc. I've been working on it so long, it's kinda hard to do a good check, so I was wondering if you could give it a fresh look. Dåvid Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 23:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

so

saying "(cur) (last) 21:23, 2 April 2007 WookMuff (Talk | contribs) (rv again. so if fall is the third quarter, does that mean spring is the first? if so, what about the two months of winter still at the beginning of the year? winter =1st and 5th quarter...) " is keeping a cool head?

Compared to threatening people with accusations of vandalism and saying "I win" - when Wikipedia is built on consensus and your own information was inaccurate within the context of Halo 3's release date....yes. Peptuck 22:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

let's analyze this

(cur) (last) 21:35, 2 April 2007 Robkehr (Talk | contribs) (12 months in a year, divide 12 into 1/4s and where does the 9th month fall? in the 3rd quarter, thank you i win, revert it if you want i will still be right and you will be nothing more than a vandal) (cur) (last) 21:23, 2 April 2007 WookMuff (Talk | contribs) (rv again. so if fall is the third quarter, does that mean spring is the first? if so, what about the two months of winter still at the beginning of the year? winter =1st and 5th quarter...) (cur) (last) 21:07, 2 April 2007 Robkehr (Talk | contribs) (missed one) (cur) (last) 21:07, 2 April 2007 Robkehr (Talk | contribs) (september is in the 3rd quarter of a year)


would you agree that september is indeed in the 3rd quarter of the calendar year? if so, then yes, i am right, and therefore, yes i do win. and if the consensus agrees that septemeber is in the 4th quarter than i must agree with anyone who criticizes wikipedia for being a noncredible source of information.

but enough, i've had a bad day and obviously took it out on here. my bad.

Help with Halo 2 FAC needed

Most concerns at the Halo 2 FAC page have been addressed, however the redesign of Bungie.net has led to almost every single Bungie.net link used in the article to go 404 on us. Basically, the article doesn't stand a chance of passing anymore unless we get the links as archives using the Template:Cite web archiveurl parems. I tried contacting Bungie's tech, but they've been unresponsive. I'm going to be busy in real life more than usual, so I would appreciate it if you could lend a hand and help me if at all possible.

Sincerely, Dåvid Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 21:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, another one.

The Original Barnstar
In addition to your many fine other efforts, this is for your reorganization and cleanup of GDI technology of Command & Conquer. You dealt with a cluttered and messy article about the details of a video game by making it clear and well-structured, which is quite a novel approach in these parts. --Kizor 14:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You're allowed to refuse if the abundance of videogaming awards is getting silly. I'll try to copyedit the contents of said article in a few days. --Kizor 14:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

masterchief article

I looked it over and made many changes i need you look them over some might a tiny bit off the MC but are parts that have been entirely skipped even though of minor/medium importance also my grammer sucks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Agentheartlesspain (talk • contribs) 21:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

THE stone part and the shield armor upgrade need to added because they play a major part in the masterchief life

also there is no part of captain keyes who plays an massive important part of chiefs life in halo also the first strike is wrong they wanted to use the planet as a derelict to maybe find a damaged usnc ship to take to earth cole porcal states no capture ship may be taken to earth untill it has been searched.

also kurt is a sparten thats still alive and its was noted that there was another one.

And another one...

The Editor's Barnstar
We didn't have one that looks like a buzzsaw (let alone a chainsaw), so this Editor's Barnstar will have to do. For your extensive editing work on cleaning up and improving Command & Conquer: Generals, I present you with... - KingRaptor 08:48, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Now its just getting silly. :D (note that I said nothing about it not being awesome, either :P) I just saw the Generals article (one I had worked on quite a bit back in '06) get reduced to that disorganized, uninformative mess, and got mad, lol. But thanks! Peptuck 08:51, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Battle Armour

Looking at the history of that page (and it's been a while since I have) the other reason that material was removed because it was a copyvio. --Fredrick day 13:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not certain if its a copyvio - to me, it looks like the site that is supposedly having its copyrights violated took the material from Wikipedia, not the other way around. Puzzling. Peptuck 13:05, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of multiplayer gametypes in Halo 2

something on bottem of article dont know if to delete or move it somewhere ~AGHP

ghosts of onyx

started to try organize it so major events and characters i left the orginal plot this propably should be done to other novels also Agentheartlesspain 22:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)agentheartlesspain[reply]

It doesn't need to be organized like that; older versions of the article were a massive mess when organized like you had it. It doesn't need further in-universe work in the manner you were implementing. Peptuck 22:03, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it needs to have a set up of sections one for characters, one for story plot, and one to noteable events Agentheartlesspain 22:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)agentheartlesspain[reply]

Characters, plot, and "events" are all part of the same thing: plot, plus we already have a dedicated Halo characters page. Peptuck 22:56, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the plot sucks here the last parahraph sounds weird Agentheartlesspain 22:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Persistent Master Chief Article vandalism

I've blocked him for three months. Any more peeps outta him after that, and I'll be surprised if he remembers to come back. David Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 20:25, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Halo

Wikiproject Halo
Call to Members

In order to streamline and coordinate further improvement to Halo-related articles, there is an active roll call to all Wikipedians who put themselves down as participants. To show your continued involvement in the project, simply go here and sign your name. If you do not wish to be active, et al, simply ignore this notice and you will not be bugged again. Thanks, David Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!)

Halo 3

Please present some sort of argument on the talk page before bringing that back again. TTN 01:12, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Patience is a virtue. Peptuck 01:13, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please either use an edit summary or have the message ready right away next time. I have no idea what your intentions are otherwise. TTN 01:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Like I said: patience is a virtue. Not everyone runs at lightning speed, and not everyone plans everything out in advance, especially when doing snap-reverts. Give people time to work, and be accomodating. You aren't the only person editing Wikipedia. Peptuck 01:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's why edit summaries are good. You could have said "Revert. This should be discussed more." or "Revert. See the talk page." Patience is fine, but it doesn't really work if you lack common courtesy. It's sort of hard to remain patient because of the fact that you may have had no intention of discussing. TTN 01:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Halo

I was bored, and since hopefully very soon Halo (series) as well as Characters in the Halo series will be GA, I started a Portal:Halo. Nothing on it at all, yet- just fill in the content by clicking on the redlinks. David Fuchs (talk / frog blast the vent core!) 23:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Granger

Quoted from the edit commentary box;

"That's ambigious; who is "we"? GDI as a whole?"

Ironically, I'd count this remark as speculation from your part just the same. Along the line of reasoning you employ here, there equally is nothing which could indicate this dedicated professional in service of one particular division is referring to anything else but her department. Something which is further underlined by the context of the situation in which she makes this statement.

"Further, if he's in command of an intelligence division, why would he give combat missions to the Commander in charge of the entire Eastern Seaboard?"

1) Granger was shown as being actively commanding in InOps, specifically, even before the Philadelphia was taken down and thus also before the major command crisis that would follow on its destruction. This insinuates that he was, in fact, the commanding officer of that particular division all along. Granger's close familiarity with the local staff appears to further substantiate this notion. At the very least there is nothing to suggest otherwise, making claims to the contrary equally speculative.

How is that section Granger was in command of part of InOps? Show me actual evidence that he is in command of InOps, or that the section was actually InOps itself? Yes, he has an intelligence officer attached to his command; this is completely normal, especially for a commanding officer of General rank.
Furthermore, Granger specifically refers to InOps as a seperate entity. "InOps has downgraded Nod's threat level to low. Me, I don't believe it." If he was in command of InOps, that would mean that Granger would have had to be the one to downgrade Nod's threat level in the first place. Directly contradicting what he says right there.
Degree of familarity is irrelevant. Military officers who work together show familiarity after time; I should know, I've worked with military officers before, and I've observed officers in different specializations (intelligence officers attached to combat commands) act similarly.

2) The incident which prompted InOps to closely investigate Nod activity in the North Carolina Badlands is, in fact, located in the region this commander was charged with overseeing, making him a rather obvious choice for the job.

And? I don't see the relevance; if Granger was intelligence, why would he be in command of a combat officer? Intelligence officers do not command combat operations.

3) At the time of the prologue in the GDI campaign, the nature of Granger's orders primarily entailed a surveillance mission, and not a combat mission. This is evidenced by the very gradual deployment of more specialized forces and more expensive hardware to the scene as more information began to come in following on the commander's forward scouting. Granger's orders to the commander to engage Nod in combat in the events after the destruction of the Philadelphia was the result of him having assumed global command of all of GDI's standing forces. It's never stated outright whether or not he was indeed the highest military officer left in the organization after the Philadelphia incident, but since he was never replaced by any other military officer for the remainder of the entire campaign, it's quite sensible to assume he actually was. 84.192.113.201 07:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But Granger gave orders to a combat officer; that alone says that he is not an intelligence officer, as intel officers do not give orders to combat troops and officers. They provide intelligence, and even when they outrank lower-ranking officers they are not allowed to assume command.
There's no evidence Granger is InOps beyond Telfair's vague statement that can easily not include Granger. Peptuck 08:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also, in the interests of consensus, I'd prefer if we kept this on the article's own talk page; this is a matter for others to weigh in on as well. I'll ignore any further discussions regarding this on my talk page.Peptuck 08:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

HALO UNIVERSE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_universe theres no covenant http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Halo_universe&diff=132575491&oldid=132515850 thats really when the last time when there was covenant i'll leave up to you for deciding what to do to revert it back to that or copy and paste it in somehow Agentheartlesspain 22:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spartan-James

i have the suspiscion this vandalism reverter is going to go after me since he likes halo and i had to undo his revert of me on characters of halo LT haverson is not post to be in it

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