Talk:Badlands (band)

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DONE!

I'm pretty much done making this articile as full as I can. I don't know why I bother, no one appreciates this amazing band anyway >_< NukeMTV 14:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate them! Pillsbur 16:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate them AND the OTHER badlands, too. Gringo300 23:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Glam Metal

I'd like to know why the glam metal genre label keeps coming back. Exactly what about Badlands music connects it to the party-hardy hedonism of Poison or KISS? Exactly where is the gender androgyny of Twisted Sister or Cinderella? Sure, the guys Badlands had impressive hair in the late 1980s, but so did the guys in Metallica. Chaisson's "country" and Gillen's proto-retro-60s thing are completely out of place in a glam conception, and the band's music is far too complex texturally and in terms of ensemble virtuosity to connect to the straightforward pop song style of the glam sound.

We could talk about the connection between glam metal and the blues, with certain blues rock conventions serving as a way for glam metal artists to try and legitimize themselves as "real" musicians. However, that doesn't mean Badlands was ever a glam metal band.

Please post your glam metal reasonings here (whoever you are) so they can be discussed a little. -- Pillsbur 16:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i'm not the guy who keeps putting that label on the band, but i'll say that jake e. lee definitely has a glam metal background- mickey ratt/ratt, rough cutt, dio, and ozzy osbourne. also, i'd say that musical genres aren't always as clear cut and black and white as a lot of people try to make them out to be. Gringo300 23:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but not buying it. To say Jake E. Lee has a glam metal background does not make Badlands a glam metal band (btw, to call Dio a glam metal band is a little bit strange don't you think? Can't remember too many Dio songs about "nothing but a good time") Also, I agree that genres and styles are fluid, but Badlands had little musically to do with glam metal. The things I listed above still stand and I'd still like to see an actual counter-argument -- where's the connection between Badlands and glam metal? Pillsbur 03:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say that Dio is an example of where musical genres aren't black-and-white and clear cut. Gringo300 14:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question for Pillsbur

Have you heard the Badlands from the UK? They're musically a lot different than the Badlands from America, but, in my opinion, just as good. Gringo300 23:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ray Gillen's Death?

Just what is the truth? I have the issue of Kerrang where they report his death in a New York City hospital on December 1, 1993. Frank Zappa died on December 3rd, the article mentioned "former Black Sabath/Badlands singer and Frank Zappa die in same week". Where is all this stuff about December 3rd in New Jersey coming from?