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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by ChrisLamb (talk | contribs) at 03:04, 1 October 2007 (Kurdish Christians(10/01/07): new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Kurdish Christians

thank you for helping out with the Kurdish Christians article. You have really helped the article become more NPOV; however till everyone can agree I think it is best if we keep the POV template on the article or at least above the disputed section. Again thank you for helping with an article that desperately needed(and still needs) help ChrisLamb 01:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciation !

Dorood Heja,

Thank you for works, and taking the care of Mazandarani related articles from being vandalaized, I appreciate it, and please give me the chance to having a Kurd friend like you, --Ali 12:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your countless efforts about Mazandarani Culture

I appreciate it in advanced! --Ali 12:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Tapuria

Hi, I saw those articles, Actually i don't know so much about King Gashnasp, And it would be appreciated if you help me to completeing this article (Edit it freely and clean missy notes and texts, if anything there ), Qaren is an arebicized versin of Karen, as well as bavend, which is in fact Pavend.
I think using real names is prefered.
Did you mean Paduspanids who ruled Royan region of former Tapuria kingdom ? --Ali 17:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you are right, but i am not sure this current article in my user page has the correct year numbers or not, Since i saw many different year number for one king, But i'll start it ! Thank you for contributing ! --Ali 22:56, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

Be mindful of WP:NPA and WP:Civility and do not label other editors like you did here [1]. Also, do not remove POV tags, when I have explained my reasons on the talk page of the article that needs checking for POV, doing so is considered vandalism. --Mardavich 05:14, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi, I think it is a reasonable request to keep the {{POV-check}} on the Corduene article for awhile. The idea that the name of Kurds is related to the name of the Roman provence is unusual and have to be checked once more. Lets wait until some neutral editor would check the issue Alex Bakharev 05:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mihranids

Hi Heja. Who are those Arsacid-related Mihranids? They lost their power just after Islamic conquest and shortly after that we had a tribal federation exactly with that name who even joined and helped Saladin. Thanks. Brusk u Trishka 23:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Ottomans

Look at what you reverted: [2] Why did you remove all of that? In good faith I'll ask you to undue your blind revert, otherwise I'll have to report that, as it is completely unnecessary. The fact tags are also completely unnecessary. First of all, there is already a source for the Ottoman Empire (see list of Turkic states and empires, that was what was agreed). Furthermore, who are you to deny the Iranic culture and people of the Kurds?Hajji Piruz 00:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources are clearly provided showing the Iranic aspect of the Ottomans (culturally mostly).Hajji Piruz 17:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See List of Turkic states and empires, the issue has been discussed there I believe.Hajji Piruz 17:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The Ottomans identified themselves as Muslims and only Muslims (they didnt even identify themselves as Turks). I changed it to say Turkic Persianate, better? Also, you should be reminded that it is a sourced statement, therefore, a fact tag doesnt apply.Hajji Piruz 17:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is an open encyclopaedia. Anyone can remove or add information. Just because one piece of information is included in one article that is not in another isnt basis for anything.Hajji Piruz 19:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The claim is ridiculous of course. Apart from the fact that Persian language was used by Ottoman court, just like few other Muslim dynasties used it as lingua franca, as well as Russian courts often used French in 18-19th century, claiming Ottomans as Persian is as ridiculous as would be claiming Russians as Russo-French. Atabek 18:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Slaw

Gelek spas brai azziz Wolfmankurd 21:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Osroene

What do you mean the etymology is clearly Arab? HOW? I have given you different 'acedemic sources indicating otherwise. So how can you say clearly? Chaldean 23:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, why do you consider yourself Kurdish? Because you speak Chinese? No, because you speak Kurdish. Chaldean 23:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please just listen to what you are saying: You want to change the identity of an entire kingdom because of what one paper says? But what about the 50 other pages that contract it? I mean its common sense, really. Do you think you sound fair? I can bring one source right now stating Kurds are of Turkish origin. Should I go change the entire Kurdish people origin's section? Absolutely not. Chaldean 23:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As moderator User:Garzo indicated, ethnicity is a new idea in our world. Their where no clear cut ethnicity in those times. But historically, one is labelled what he speaks. For example, Ephrem the Syrian (A Osroenean) is not considered an Arab, simply because his mother tung was Syriac. I think you need to do more reading about the issue (School of Nisibis is an interesting small article). And also keep in mind, during the time we are talking about (200 BC - 200 AD) this was the time where Assyrian became Syrian among the Syriac speaking people. So your not going to find "Assyrian as an ethnic designation for population of Osroene" but rather a group of people that share a common language most likely called Syriacs/Syriac/Syrian/Suraya. Chaldean 23:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Osroene section

Hi Heja, I just moved the part you added about Osroene into the article. SPAAS--Skatewalk 03:11, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Heja I didn't remove Osroene its added in the the article. Its listed Below the Nabateans. Thanks for your contribution. --Skatewalk 22:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

After Osroene he began vandalizing the article. I had to revert it back.--Skatewalk 02:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yazidi

Please try to maintain a NPOV on pages that refer to Kurds. As a Kurd you seem to be determined to remove all references to incidents that show the darker side of Kurdish history. The Yazidi stoning incident was a noteable and verfiable incident, dont remove it again please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sennen goroshi (talkcontribs) 13:54, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to discuss the constant reverts between you and I on the Yazidi and Kurdish women pages. It may be better if we deal with it in your talk page or mine, than just editing and re-editing the pageSennen goroshi 03:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

btw Heja, I dont know why you are still moaning, if you go to the United States page on wikipedia, it talks about the terrorist attack on the WTC.Sennen goroshi 14:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

File:ShiaCrescet.jpg
Map which shows the Shia Crescent.

Hi I have changed the map. I had planed it long before but i hadn't not much time. The problem is to create a map which also shows really a Crescent, so i used in the 1st version a wrong one and draw the line through the sunni kurdish north, cause i let mark Iraq as a generally part. Because in geopolitical discussion they see Iraq as an unity. --Japan01 22:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdish Christians(10/01/07)

Please do not take down the pov template from the article Kurdish Christians I did register my concerns on the talk page before i posted the pov-check template. Also for the citations needed tags i placed instead of removing them please add the citations it would give the article more credibility. ChrisLamb 03:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]