Talk:Voltron

Sven question

he dies in teh original Japanese...but then how does he pilot it 1 more time in a later episode? They would have had to recon the previous plot. And I'm pretty sure I remember Sven in the 3D Voltron show (I miss that show). Did they pull an Ultimate Muscle and decide to stay with the USA plot instead of the Japanese plot?

The Voltron name

If Voltron's REAL name is GOLION, then where did Voltron got it's name?

Was it from, VOLTES V????? -A Voltes V fan

Voltron is definitely a copy of Voltes Vin many aspects;

The 5-man team (Space Explorers in Voltron vs Young Earth Defense Agents in Voltes V.)

A multi-funtioning combination machine/robot craft. (Voltron as Lion Robots and Voltes V as Super Earth defense space ships.)

And then, the VOLT in Voltes V's name.

(They should have called Golion "Liontron" if they do not intend to "borrow" Voltes V's name.)

- Mark "Hentai" Jimenez

Hachi machi! I had my doubts at first, but after looking at the Wiki entry, there can be no denying it... Voltron really is a derivative of Voltes V. Even the characters match up almost perfectly. It's funny how much of this behind-the-scenes information you miss when you're just a kid, especially in the pre-Internet, pre-otaku 1980's. --M.Neko 11:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The Voltes V and Voltron Comparison

Reply for Mr. Mark Jimenez. Obviously, Voltron copied most of the concepts in Voltes V and none of these concepts were polished and improved after being added to the Voltron series. These concepts were merely “copy pasted” and then added some cosmetics to show as originals.

1. The Five Man team Concept- Voltron can get away with the reason that most Japanese sci-fi, be these as live action or animated, utilize the Five man team approach for their team heroes. 2. The “Gattai” Concept- Again, Voltron can use this reason since there are scores of giant robot series that’s being formed by multi-functioning machines or smaller robots long before Voltes V came into being.

3. The Giant Sword/final weapon concept- Clearly this is Voltes V’s original (Ten-ku-ken means "Sword of Heaven") The two Voltron shows imitated this as “The Blazing Sword.”

4. The VOLT in Voltes V’s name. (It was so obvious that Voltron took Voltes V’s name because of the five man team concept, Gattai Concept and the Giant sword final weapon concept.)

Supposed a fight erupts between Voltron and Voltes V; who will be vanquished and who will be victorious?

Let’s scrutinize this objectively:

1. The Skills and abilities of both teams:

There are no mentions of what kind of combat training the Voltron Force had under went in the academy. In regards to the Voltron episode I’ve seen so far, they were never subjugated under strict, harsh and extreme trainings. Let’s take the Voltron Force’s skill at face value; they were trained as space explorers. Perhaps, they can thoroughly navigate through deep space and they can handle the controls of different space craft under Galaxy Alliance specifications. That’s because they are Space Explorers!

The Voltes Team on the other hand, was highly skilled Earth Defense Agents. (Voltes V vol.1: Invasion from Outer Space) they are disciplined in such military and oriental combat skills as Karate, Judo, Kendo, Marksmanship and Ninjitsu.

General Oka, one of Camp. Big Falcon’s elderly base commander was a Ninja master. Further more, the Voltes Team most likely to use their martial arts skills to Voltes V’s deadly counter attacks (Voltes V vol.4: To Catch a butterfly)

More so, the Voltes Team underwent harsh and murderous training sessions under Dr. Sanjuki where they learned the lethal “Spin-Fly Technique”. (Voltes V vol.9: The need for rigid training.)

I strongly believe that between the Voltes Team and the Voltron Force, the Voltes Team in this aspect had the upper hand.

2. Weapon Comparison of the Two super robots:

Voltron was known to carry an array of space weapons against the “Robeasts” from Planet Doom. (Note: Robeasts are giant monsters that looked like giant clay creatures and lumbers mindlessly like drunken frat boys.)

• Voltron Eye beam
• Voltron Cross-beam
• Voltron Kick
• Voltron Shield
• Voltron Wing Attack
• Voltron Lion Head attack
• a variety of Voltron Missiles
• The Voltron Blazing Sword

On the other hand, Voltes V sports an arsenal of Ninjitsu-based super weapons against the “Beast Fighters” from Planet Boazania. (Note: Beast fighters are sentient giant robot monster-war machines from Boazania. They are mostly covered in heavy armors, they can think, plan an attack and some of them are skilled in archery and swordsmanship.)

• Chain Knuckles
• Finger Missiles
• Grand Fire
• Voltes Kick
• Voltes Bazookas
• Ultra-Electro magnetic Tops
• Ultra-Electro magnetic Beam
• Ultra-Electro Magnetic Whip
• The Big V Sword "Sword of Heaven"(Den Ku ken.)

But before Voltes V could use the Den-ku-ken, the great sword unleashes a powerful “Ultra-Electro Magnetic Ball.” This mighty ball of energy engulfs, weakens the armors and paralyzes the strongest of Voltes V’s opponents. Thus, Voltes V can easily bring down the Den ku ken at the trapped opponent and destroy it with ease. As an addition, Voltes V can even release several of the Ultra-Electro Magnetic Balls in rapid successions. One can just imagine how Voltron could fair against something like the Ultra-Electro Magnetic ball.

3. Human sentimentality in both shows: Most episodes of Voltron I’ve seen, contains no dramatic display of human sentiments what so ever. Yes, the Japanese of Voltron (Golion) had one of the Voltron members die. But in the “tampered” U.S. version, the character Sven retired from service. (Talk about dedication) The animated series even had a Disney- wannabe ambiance embodied by Space mice, beautiful princesses, castles and keeps and evil witches. There is nothing in this animated show that I can relate to: No sufferings of slaves, no uncertainties and indecisiveness among the main characters, no cries of anguish among the war victims. What’s even cornier is the fact that every time a Voltron episode starts to close, a character religiously proclaims Voltron: Defender of the Universe. Then they made this “Voltron in 3rd Dimension”; a computerized rendering of Voltron. This does not help at all. All I could see are animated action figures and a 30 minute commercial of a rehashed robot toy for kids to nag at their parents to buy.

Sadly, I can only level Voltron with other corny cartoons like He-Man, Thunder Cats, Scooby-Doo, the Herculoids, Thundar the Barbarian, Denver-the Last dinosaur and the Gobots. Missing one or fifteen episodes of Voltron means nothing, really.

Voltes V was a different ball game all together: The animated series was a tear jerker among youngsters and a quaint source of inspiration for older viewers. Voltes V highlights human sentimentality and emphasize the notion of the defense of one’s homeland, is a noble and desirable act.

Unlike other cartoon series in those era, Voltes V depicts the cruelty and barbarity of a mighty alien invasion force over the suffering Boazanian slaves and conquered Earth people altogether. The Voltes team was not “puppets” or mere mechanical components of Voltes V; The team had their own differences, feelings and sensibilities towards their team mates, and to the other supporting characters. They are young human warriors who witnessed the death of their self sacrificing mother and longed the warm love of a long lost father.

Buddy Paraiso

Red vs Blue quote

I removed the bolded part of this piece of information, because it seemed pretty tangentially related to the main topic, especially for something in the introductory paragraph:

Voltron was also mentioned in episode three of the web series red vs blue, in that episode the character Church asks his teammate Tucker what he would do with two chicks to which Tucker responds "Church women are like voltron the more you hook up the better it gets".

Esk 3 July 2005 20:25 (UTC)

The quote appears in both "TV" and "Miscellaneous". One or the other should be chosen. --711groove 16:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Outfit colors and lion colors

Is it just me or didn't the guy in red pilot a black lion and the guy in black piloted a red lion?

Keith, the pilot of Black Lion, wore red.

Lance, the pilot of Red Lion, wore blue.

Pidge, the pilot of Green Lion, wore green, and was the only full color-match.

Sven, the first pilot of Blue Lion, is the one who wore black.

Allura, the pilot of Blue Lion after episode 6, wore pink.

Hunk, the pilot of Yellow Lion, wore orange.

The uniform colors were completely random, with the exception of the traditional "leader in red" and "girl in pink", and not related to the Lion they piloted. Angel the Techrat 18:24, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Character Names

I find different American surnames for the Voltron characters in several websites. In Wikipedia is also not different. So which ones are the correct ones? The Japanese names are already correct, so we don't have to edit it, but I'm confused with the American ones. I got this names from various websites:

• Commander Keith Noel
• Lance Hollings
• Sven Byorn
• Malcom Cavish "Hunk"
• Princess Allura Tiel Osie'
• Patrick Grambling "Pidge"
• Coran Sile
• Prince Lotor Di'el
• King Zarkon Di'el
• Hagger

Can anyone verify this? Thanks HoneyBee 11:33, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Reply : There have never been official names released or aknowledged by World Events Productions. The "surnames" that you find on the net are made up ones by Fanfiction authors. About the closest to official surnames that we see were given to the characters in the Devil's Due Voltron Comic publication. RSXTC 08:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Hagar or Haggar?

There's two different spellings in the article, which one is correct? nae'blis _(talk) 21:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Dairakga.jpg

Not properly tagged. --Dangerous-Boy 10:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Lance vs Sven

Current revision states that both Lance and Sven are the second in command. DOES NOT COMPUTE DOES NOT COMPUTE DOES NOT COMSHHHRRRRRREEEEEE... teh TK 02:45, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

You need to READ MORE CAREFULLY. It says Sven WAS second in command, and all details of this are in the PAST TENSE. Then he was injured and retired to another planet. Allura replaced him as a pilot, and it's not too much of a brain burner to figure out that Lance replaced him as second in command. Canonblack 12:12, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Romour about movie

Someone said some movie might come out in the future. Please tell Me if this is true or dispel it. -- Eddie, Tuesday February 28 2006 at 23:18

There is an article attached to this talk page, you might try reading it. It very specifically states that an untitled live action film project is in development. Canonblack 12:15, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Ive heard something about Pharrell Williams being involved with the movie. He was being interviewed on australian tv a few weeks back, and he was asked about the voltron movie, he confirmed it. I think he is a producer for the film, and i think he will be doing the music also. any info will be cool, if anyone has it. --Adam aka. Cho03 16:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

*Ahem*

"New York–based distributor Media Blasters has announced the commercial release of Voltron on August 23, 2006"

As of the writing of this comment, it is July 27, 2006. I know we're talking about a science fiction animated series here, but I doubt the author of this remark could see a month into the future.

*Ahem*

Well.. I didn't make the remark in question, but perhapse you should re-read it. And/or check out Mediablaster's page. The comment doesn't say the anouncement was made on Aug 23. Aug 23 is WHEN the DVDs will BE RELEASED. -- Angel the Techrat

this is Dangerous_D filling in on this part, I made another update on Vol 2 release date it was due to comeout on the 12th but was pushed back another week to the 19th, aking it the 3rd date change on this

Sound effects

I'm hesitant to do so, but I'm removing the parenthetical comments on sound effects added to the introductory section on August 14, 2006. The meaning is unclear, the analysis is based on conjecture, and if the content should be included at all, it belongs in the "Differences" section. I would suggest that if it is added there, some research be done on the actual sound effects used on the original. -- Fru1tbat 13:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I cleaned up this section again. My reword was intended to remove any possible subjectivity. If anyone has a problem with my edits, please discuss here. -- Fru1tbat 20:47, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Fansites and external links

I have removed external links to discussion forums as they are a violation of WP:EL. -- MakeChooChooGoNow 09:23, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Relating the toys to the storyline?

It seems very likely to me that the numbers have nothing at all to do with the storylines. Also, does anybody have release and rerelease dates for the toys? Growing up, I don't know whether it was because of my age, or because of my parent's situation that I first started watching the vehicle Voltron series with no knowledge of the Lion Voltron series, but when I wanted the Voltron toys, which an aunt bought each group for me and my two younger siblings, I don't remember the Lion toys being around at that time either. Hackwrench 22:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Thinking about it some more, if there was an original toy release for the Lions, the numbering may have come about due to a successful rerelease after am unsuccessful first release. Hackwrench 02:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Earth was devastated by nuclear war?

"In Golion, the initial scenes are actually of Earth, as the pilots have returned from their mission in the year 1999 to find that the entire population of Earth has been killed in a nuclear war."

A nuclear war between who? Between Earth and Galra, or between two nations on Earth? 69.69.72.198 01:59, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply : During the opening narration for episode 1, the narrator doesn't specifically state who started the war, but it was the great nations. We are left to just assume who they were. RSXTC 08:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The DVD released isn't the japanese version

"Collection One: Blue Lion, featuring the first fifteen episodes of the series, is scheduled for wide release on September 26, 2006, though it was released early in the US under special agreement by some major retail chains on September 12, 2006. [1]"

From what I read on amazon.com from both the description and the user comments, this isn't the Japanese version. It's just the american version of Voltron. http://www.amazon.com/Voltron-Defender-Universe-Colletion-One/dp/B000FUTV64/sr=8-1/qid=1159887879/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-5088939-7040868?ie=UTF8&s=dvd Inforazer 15:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Correct. The article is about the American series, so the line you quoted wasn't inappropriate, but it may have been poorly worded (and was out of date). I've updated and clarified it. -- Fru1tbat 15:58, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I also clarified the information even further to help avoid confusion. Inforazer 17:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if the term "American Voltron" is necessary (as I understand it, "Voltron" is specific to the American version). In addition, "Collection One: Blue Lion" refers to the first volume only, not the entire series, as the current text makes it sound. Maybe it's the first sentence that's throwing you off. I've rewritten again to completely separate the two sets of releases. Note: Since it's hard to find two websites that agree on the exact name of the volumes, I've dispensed with the "Collection One: Blue Lion"-style names and simplified it to just "Volume 1" and "Volume 2" for consistency and accuracy. -- Fru1tbat 18:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, in Australia, the 20th anniversary editions of Voltron have been out since late 2005, and come in 5 sets for each of the lion force and vechicle force series from the early 80's. These have been released by madman and the AV channel. Shouldn't these be mentioned in the dvd sections of the article, as these complete collections seem to predate the collections talked about in the article. -- lturner80

Details have been added. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.166.5.241 (talk) 12:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

Voltron's Weapons, how could you forget?!

Why didn't you guys list his weapons!--JDitto 03:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

The Blue Lion - suggest merge with this article

I was stub sorting, and the article The Blue Lion was one I picked to sort. I've moved it into an appropriate stub category, and also suggested it be merged with this article - as it consists of only one line, and is flagged as being in serious need of cleanup. Scottkeir 01:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

For the moment, I have boldly made it into a redirect. Even the one line was a bit misleading, as it did not indicate that this is a fictional object. --Aleph-4 13:42, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Super Robot Taisen W

Alright, so our beloved Golion finally got into SRW, can this in any way be mentioned in the article? Just Wondering

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No untitled voltron movie

Though there might be a Volton movie coming out the trailer shown before the transformers movie is not it.It is a monster movie with the working title of Cloverfield.Produced by JJ Abrams.User:Parralax

yes but there is quite possibly some truth. threw the line someone screams in the street is "its a lion. Its huge" and it makes sense to put it infront of transformers . but this is still speculation. so i would not cross it out until we have a direct comment from someone working on the film that its not. (JW)

Actually, the line is "It's alive! It's huge!". It was a trailer before transformers based on the high number of people expected to see that movie. There's nothing to back up it's a Voltron movie. It's speculation and doesn't belong in the article. CPitt76 01:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

New Voltron script review @ http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/2007/06/latino_review_gives_voltron_script_a_rating.html

complete review @ http://www.latinoreview.com/scriptreview.php?id=65

Please fans out there be gracious that they are trying to produce VOLTRON movie. I hope they stay true to the story for nostalgic 80's fans as well as introduce new fans of the 21st century to Voltron. I hope the underlying story is strong with great characters after the final script is revealed. So go out there an express your opinion.

VOLTRON!YES!