Talk:ANZ (bank)
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Article confusing?
I feel we might need to clarify the article:
It originally stated
- and the leading bank and largest company in New Zealand
I have modified this to
- and one of the leading banks and the largest company in New Zealand
AFAIK this the modification I have made is more correct. Westpac is the largest bank according to their website [1] and the ANZ website does not claim they are the leading bank either [2]. I think one of the problems is the article is confusing at the moment. In NZ, as the article alludes to, ANZ and the National Bank are now part of the ANZ National Bank Limited group. AFAIK, this group is the largest banking groups in NZ. However ANZ and National still appear to operate as largely seperate entities in NZ. So perhaps we need to clarify these details. Someone who knows a bit more could help.
ALso, could someone confirm it is the largest company? I know Fonterra is sometimes considered the largest company although as a cooperative group, they aren't quite the same as a normal publicly traded company I believe... Nil Einne 00:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
- Actually I somehow forgot Telecom. I don't see how ANZ could be larger then Telecom, even with their recent plummeting. Telecom is or was ~20% of the NZX50 if I'm not mistaken. They are also AFAIK undisputedly the most profitable. So I reckon the statement that ANZ is the largest company must be wrong and have removed it. Nil Einne 17:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Incorrect Article Name
The company's correct title is simply ANZ, not ANZ Bank, or The ANZ, this should be reflected in the title. There has been a recent initiative to reduce the inconsistencies around the name. Vespine 06:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- According to both the ASX and the copyright notice on their web page, the company name is Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited. This is the name in the lead and infobox of the article. ANZ is a disambiguation page that links to this article, which seems correct. --Scott Davis Talk 12:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, sorry my mistake for not being complete ;) the TWO correct titles are 'Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited', which I didn't mention because it is correct; and 'ANZ' which I did mention because 'The ANZ' and 'ANZ Bank' are NOT correct. The lead and info box are correct since 'The ANZ' was replaced with 'ANZ', but the article title is not correct. Looking at other disambiguation pages, I think the correct title to this article should be ANZ (Bank). I recognise that I'm probably being a bit pedantic.Vespine 05:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think the current title ANZ Bank is the most likely to be searched for by readers. Perhaps the article should be at Australia and New Zealand Banking Group. Would you prefer that? (there's a naming convention to drop "Limited" unless it is always used for the company like AWB Limited). If you have access to accurate information on former names of the bank and its affiliates and subsidiaries, could you please review the entire History section? For example it says "ANZ Bank" was formed in 1951, but "ANZ" merged in 1970. It says "ANZ Singapore Limited" but "ANZ Bank (Samoa)" (which might both be right). --Scott Davis Talk 07:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- ANZ is currenly a disambig page, but none of the other destinations are especially significant. I prefer ANZ Bank but a quick check of their website shows that they use ANZ. So I don't know. Regards, Ben Aveling 08:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- ANZ (bank) or ANZ (Australasian bank) perhaps..? --Deon555talkReview 22:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- There was a small article on p46 of the Australian Financial Review Rear Window section today (30/10/06), entitled 'What's in a name? A lot, if you're ANZ'. Apparently an edict was issued to the media last week that only the name ANZ or Australia and New Zealand Banking Group be used. They quote ANZ Bank and ANZ Banking Group as being 'officially hated' by the bank. This supports the comment by Vespine above. I would support a rename to Australia and New Zealand Banking Group with a redirect from ANZ Bank to help readers who, like us, didn't get the official memo. amitch 11:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- I also saw the AFR article. I can't find any public announcement from ANZ on this, but it's definitely been the company's position for several years. I've moved the page, and updated most links to ANZ Bank as well. I think the basic ANZ Bank redirect and ANZ page cover the most likely searches. Pedronet 14:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- There was a small article on p46 of the Australian Financial Review Rear Window section today (30/10/06), entitled 'What's in a name? A lot, if you're ANZ'. Apparently an edict was issued to the media last week that only the name ANZ or Australia and New Zealand Banking Group be used. They quote ANZ Bank and ANZ Banking Group as being 'officially hated' by the bank. This supports the comment by Vespine above. I would support a rename to Australia and New Zealand Banking Group with a redirect from ANZ Bank to help readers who, like us, didn't get the official memo. amitch 11:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- ANZ (bank) or ANZ (Australasian bank) perhaps..? --Deon555talkReview 22:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- ANZ is currenly a disambig page, but none of the other destinations are especially significant. I prefer ANZ Bank but a quick check of their website shows that they use ANZ. So I don't know. Regards, Ben Aveling 08:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think the current title ANZ Bank is the most likely to be searched for by readers. Perhaps the article should be at Australia and New Zealand Banking Group. Would you prefer that? (there's a naming convention to drop "Limited" unless it is always used for the company like AWB Limited). If you have access to accurate information on former names of the bank and its affiliates and subsidiaries, could you please review the entire History section? For example it says "ANZ Bank" was formed in 1951, but "ANZ" merged in 1970. It says "ANZ Singapore Limited" but "ANZ Bank (Samoa)" (which might both be right). --Scott Davis Talk 07:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
According to the website, anznational.co.nz, the full name of the registered bank in New Zealand is ANZ National Bank Limited. it should be noted also that ANZ Australia and ANZ New Zealand are run by one parent company, "Australia New Zealand Banking group" as seperate entities. This is because of different banking laws between the countries.
Added Internal Links
I have added Internal links to this article. Kathleen.wright5 13:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Reversed Links to pages Not Yet Created.
I have reversed Links to Pages Not Yet Created. Kathleen>wright5 23:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)