Talk:Talaat Pasha

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I'm completely in favour of merging, but am not quite sure what the new name should be. My Fromkin (ISBN 0805008578) calls him Mehmed Talaat Bey. Bey or Pasha does not really matter to me but I do think Talaat should have the two a's. Illustir 21:13, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Concur

Talar Pasa with an inverted coma uner s is the right way. Talat Pasha would be ok. His murder and the racist court that tried his killer will be disputed for a long time to come. There was mass exodus of people and killings - at the beginning of that century - everywhere. Mainly people who was killed and driven out were Turks. The real genocide was comitted against the Turks by the Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians, Serbians, Russians, Armenians and Arabs and to them the only way to gain their independence was to kill Turks who were stereotyped as less then human to justify the killings.

This comment seems spurious throughout. Not getting into details, I have to ask: why are Romanians part of this fantasy? Dahn 16:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe because during the Russo-Turkish War, Romania fought on the Russian side? Just a guess. --Lambiam ^Talk 19:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where are you getting your information from? the turkish government

Armenian Genocide

Is this confirmed? --Phoenix Hacker 04:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That depends on whom you ask. --Lambiam ^Talk 19:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Most, but not all, Western scholars would agree that Talaat Pasha was instrumental in inciting the Armenian Genocide. Therefore, discussing his role in the genocide is completely acceptable. Augustgrahl 17:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality Tag

I'm removing it. Nobody is really arguing the neutrality of the article, besides a bizaare comment about an international conspiracy against the Turkish people. Augustgrahl 17:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

here is another killer from the million tuks killers

really you have any doubt about that talat commited genocide?then the neutrality that you believe that exist is not neutrality but exactly the opposite.anyway where do you see the conpiracy against your turkish friends?because till today they suppress the rights of the minorities in turkey?even their own people dissgree with that(see orhan pamuk)who was in trial because he had his opinion to write about the genocide of armenians.dont you even heard then the french government is ready to accept in the parlament the genocide ? im sorry but you really dont know the history so the beeter you should do is to start read with your eyes open in order to see the crimea turks have commited during their history even in the recent days

I am not disputing that Talat Pasha planned a genocide against the Armenian people, or that the Turkish government forcibly suppresses opinions contrary to its views of history. I simply questioned why there should be a neutrality tag when nobody was seriously discussing the neutrality of the article. -- Augustgrahl 15:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coment "Kill every Armenian man, woman, and child without concern for anything"

The citation takes it to some letter to a olitiains, without giveing the orginal source. Can some one verfiy the orginal source? --SolDrury 21:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't get a definitive source of the quote, but it was cited by a member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Given that the quote is of uncertain authenticity but was used by an official of the U.S. government, I have changed the text to say that it has been alleged Talat said this. -- Augustgrahl 21:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also

There has been discussion elsewhere of telegrams by Talat, has nay one a source for this?\

At the bottom of the page is a link to alleged telegrams by Talat Pasha. The site explicitly mentions that the authenticity of them is disputed, and leaves the viewer to draw their own conclusions. The link is not in any way used as a reference for the article, just something that might be of interest to Wikipedia readers. -- Augustgrahl 21:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]