User talk:Michaelbusch

Thanks

For that revert. I'n not sure what's going on. Acalamari 21:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

That account is a transparent sock of an indefinitely banned user. I've noted it on WP:AIV. Michaelbusch (talk) 21:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

'Theory"

Hi, Michael. Just wanted to note that you reverted a change that was based on consensus, including Naturezak. See, for example, the outline that he created, which included the word "theory" in that heading. TimidGuy (talk) 12:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but I do not agree with that consensus - for the reasons I described. I'm a stickler for proper use of the word theory - because of all the pseudoscience I deal with. Only when it is unavoidable will I use the term to mean anything other than a set of ideas that have been tested by observational evidence - which doesn't really work for matters of meditation and states of consciousness. Michaelbusch (talk) 18:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration on cold fusion

Please note that you are cited in an arbitration request. See here. Pcarbonn (talk) 19:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes. This happens to be the second most ridiculous ArbCom request I've ever seen, but I won't stop you from having your fun. Michaelbusch (talk) 20:06, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Randell Mills

A reply to your message on my talk page: Can you please be more specific? Reading between the lines quite a bit, I am guessing that you refer to your views on "matters of meditation and states of consciousness" (cf. MWI) mentioned in "Theory" just above -- is that a correct interpretation? Dave Fafarman (talk) 22:15, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The above sentences do not make sense - meditation and consciousness are unrelated to interpretations of quantum mechanics. What I refer to is your statements about the many worlds interpretation. They are irrelevant to the Randell Mills article. I'd assumed this was obvious - that was, after all, the subject of your last few posts to Talk:Randell Mills. Michaelbusch (talk) 22:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Bleep revert warring

Are you pushing to have the article protected again? Stop the revert warring. There is no scientific consensus for the movie. Period. Dreadstar † 18:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I am not revert warring - I have reverted the article once since it was unlocked. Dreadstar, you statements refusing to accept the existence of the consensus on What the Bleep have approached the point where I feel justified in invoking don't be dense. I have explained the sources and how they reflect consensus and the non-existence of any contrary statements three times, as have others. If you do not accept the consensus, that is your concern. Refusing to acknowledge its existence is folly, however. Michaelbusch (talk) 18:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

You're engaging in a revert war over that wording, the wording was added, it was then reverted and taken again to the talk page, and yet still reverted back into the article once again without consensus - that is revert warring. As far scientific consensus, yes I'm sure if the scientific community were polled on this movie there were would indeed be the consensus that some of the aspects of the movie are pseudoscience...but this polling hasn't been done for this movie, there are no sources for it, and so it violates WP:NOR. There are no two ways about it. And please watch who you're calling dense. First, it cuts both ways, and is also an unnecessary, uncivil personal attack. Dreadstar † 19:08, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Dreadstar, don't be dense. Michaelbusch (talk) 19:59, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Michaelbusch: Your edit summaries here and here are hardly civil. Please be more careful. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I found that I had lost all patience with the refusal of Dreadstar and TimidGuy to accept that the scientific community uniformly condemns What the Bleep, and thus I became uncivil. This is one reason I'm taking a break - the other is that I am enjoying my vacation. Michaelbusch (talk) 17:13, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Randell Mills

An article that you have been involved in editing, Randell Mills, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Randell Mills. Thank you. --BJBot (talk) 10:19, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Kardashev Scale

Hi, I'm a new user so I apologize if this is an inappropriate way of talking about my concerns. My intent today was to add some critisisms about the timeline as well as supercivilizations Class IV and above, cuz I was doing some independent reading.

Well I come back to the page and a lot of it disappeared, your revisions. I kind of looked at what changes you made and realized that you pretty much deleted speculative content and much of the timeline which of course borders on psuedo-science, so I can understand why you made the revisions. However part of why I was reading independent material on the subject was that I found it interesting, and alot of the speculation is interesting. And it's not as if the speculation wasn't backed up, it's just that whoever added it in, didn't cite the work properly. Which is fine, cuz I now know where the timeline came from...

Carl Sagan's (1973) book Cosmic Connection An Extraterrestrial Perspective discusses possible timelines for astroengineering feats and talks a little about what you'd expect from an advanced civilization. This is speculation, but it's speculation done from a well-known cosmologist; who inspired millions of people to be serious about SETI projects around the world. And it can be cited. The last part of the book chapters 27. Extraterrestrial life: an idea whose time has come 30. If we succeed … 33. Astroengineering; 34. Twenty questions: a classification of cosmic civilisations 38. Starfolk II. A future; 39. Starfolk III. The cosmic Cheshire cats; talks about nothing else other than how we would detect, talk to, and become an advanced civilization and what we'd have to do, in order to get there.

As far as the sub section Extensions of the Original Scale that is an extension of Kardashev's work in his lecture Kardashev, Nikolai (1985). "On the Inevitability and the Possible Structures of Supercivilizations" in "The search for extraterrestrial life: Recent developments; Proceedings of the Symposium, Boston, MA,June 18-21, 1984", as well as a paper he did later... that I'm still searching for.

So I guess, what I'm saying is, I'd like the timeline, the extensions to the original scale, and the contact constraints back in. I'm cool if you add a big-whomping... this is psuedoscience, and speculation sticker on it cuz I can agree with that totally, but I think it does have value.

But I found the article to be interesting because of the speculation... the speculation is important in referenced sci-fiction works and I think the whole idea of wikipedia is not only to give factual information... which I think can still be done with the timeline, etc, but also to inspire people to read, and look up information that isn't just in the wikipedia files.... And I'm telling you, that had the speculation portion of the timeline not been in this article, I would never have read Carl Sagan's book or searched for Kardashev's and others material.

So what do you want to do? --Sparkygravity (talk) 14:03, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

• Re: Your recent edits

I'm pretty new to edits on Wikipedia. You completely deleted all my contributions to the Kardashev scale talk page. I thought what I had to say was pertinent to the fictional nature of the discussions already present on the page. I want to present my thoughts in a manner that will be accepted in the Wikipedia community. Given the ideas I intended to present, how would you have handled the situation? Also, if there's a way to send private messages on Wikipedia, let me know.