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Stumps: I agree that this should be "confessional poetry" and that we don't need a separate article under the current title.MaggieT 20:13, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Cleanup

This article has no apparent structure. I'm not sure whether it should be renamed to 'Confessional poetry' (which is currently a redirect to here), or whether it is worth keeping a spearate article on the poet who writes confessional poetry. As it stands it is somewhat unusual having an article on the confessional poet and not one on confessional poetry ... after all, we don't have articles on the modernist poet, the imagist poet. etc... Of course many poets dip in and out of different styles, different 'poetries' ... of course not even Lowell was always a confessional poet. — Stumps 13:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is interesting that "confessional poetry" redirects to the admittedly messy article "confessional poet" while having no page of its own; there is, however, Confessionalism (poetry), which is short but somewhat informative. The big issue, though, is the naming one: in my experience (and judging from a quick Google search) the term "confessionalism" is hardly the one that comes to mind when discussing Plath, Lowell, Berryman, et al. I personally think that "Confessionalism (poetry)" and "Confessional poet" (which, excuse my bluntness, really has no business existing as a separate page) should be merged into a (currently non-existent) "Confessional poetry" page, with appropriate redirects added thereto. Any thoughts on this? —Saposcat 14:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree; I was about to post on the Confessionalism (poetry) talk page that in my experience the term is more commonly (though not exclusively) referred to as Confessional poetry in academic texts and reference works – e.g., M. H. Abrams, A Glossary of Literary Terms; Ian Hamilton, The Oxford Companion to Twentieth-century Poetry in English. Google appears to support Confessional poetry as the more common usage: [1], [2]. I support merging both articles to Confessional poetry, and preferring the terms "Confessional poetry" and "Confessional poet" in Wikipedia articles. --Muchness 07:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Him or Herself

Surely just the word "Himself" amply covers both potential avenues, given that in the English language the masculine implies inclusion of the feminine. "Him or herself", whilst not only being sexist on the basis that it includes the feminine as an afterthought, is clumsy and inelegant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.54.134 (talk) 08:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]