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All Caps?

Just because the official title is in all caps, doesn't nessecarily mean that it has to be all caps here on wikipedia. For example, the Miami Heat are offically the Miami "HEAT" on thier websites, but the name is rendered "Heat" when it is referenced in stories. Than same is true with the Staples Center. Maybe we should use the correct media style guide, not the "official" guideline. Dknights411 16:47, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with that since most media articles I've seen all spell out STAPLES Center as Staples Center.3bulletproof16 23:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wrestling

Wrestling is an important billion dollar industry with a long history and worldwide interest and notability. Add to that the wrestling gave this venue its biggest attendance ever for an event, these references should be here (hint; those wrestling wikilinks go somewhere). Hypnosadist 23:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pro wrestling is about as notable to the history of sporting venues as tractor pulls. Only by the insistence of a small motley crew of rasslin' buffs does it even merit mention in a general-interest encyclopedia, and it certainly doesn't need to creep its way into other articles that have all but nothing to do with the pseudo-sport. I Always Win 23:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The notability of wrestling comes from the tickets to shows it sells at places like the staples center and the TV revinue generated and the coverage in the media. You obviously do not like wrestling, thats all well and good, but it is a notable part of world culture. Hypnosadist 23:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See my user page for my last word on the pseudo-sport. If professional wrestling has become a "notable part of world culture", Armageddon can not come soon enough. I Always Win 23:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet opinions don't mean much on Wikipedia. Oh, the fact that WrestleMania 23 had more than 80,000 people and that WWE RAW (which has been on TV every week for the last 14 years) continues to get millions of viewers every week make it pretty notable. TJ Spyke 00:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WCW?

In the WCW Title history at wwe.com it says that the WCW title changed hands in Los Angeles, has WCW ever have a ppv or a Nitro at STAPLES Center? It just seems weird that the place where I went 3 times to watch WWE has ever had WCW there(YouWantSomeComeGetSome 03:20, 16 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Come on someone, please answer my question!!(YouWantSomeComeGetSome 21:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Article needs a lot of work

This article reads like a press release for the arena in some sections and certainly has some problems with POV and is entirely unreferenced. Hope someone can work on this and bring it up to Wikipedia standards. - Gmatsuda 04:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove the Articleissues template from the article. There are several problems with this article. When those problems are resolved THEN remove it. -- Gmatsuda 02:56, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Totally disagree with the removal of the Articleissues template and the addition of more wrestling events to the list by 3bulletproof16. The fact is, it already lists way too many concerts and other events. If you want a detailed list of events that have taken place at Staples Center, please create a separate article/list for them.

As for the other problems with this article, they are still there. First of all, there are nowhere near enough verifiable sources and inline citations; virtually all the citations are from AEG, not from another independent source. Second, without enough verifiable sources, the article is suspect because it appears that much of it is based on original research. Finally, the article still reads like an advertising/PR piece for the arena and also needs to be reviewed for possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on requiring a neutral point of view. Also, I strongly suspect that editors who are connected to Staples Center and/or AEG have written much of this article, which violates Wikipedia's policy on conflict of interest.

Finally, I have been threatened to not edit this article further. Really have to question what's going on with this article. Jeez. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 07:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is no threat. Read WP:3RR. Wikipedia prefers avoiding Edit wars as they lead to the disruption of articles and can result in those involved being Blocked. The citations come from a variety of sites, from AEG to the independent Los Angeles Sports Commission, and the architectural firms involved with the project. I am currently in the process of adding more sources including 3rd Party (which are preferred by Wikipedia policy). The article is not and has not been written by anyone involved with the AEG either. Lists are frowned upon by Wikipedia's Manual of Style policy per WP:EMBED. If you still feel the article violates WP:NPOV I would recommend requesting a WP:RfC.-- bulletproof ^3:16 07:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it read like one until you changed "edit" to "revert" on my talk page. :-) Anyway, I'm not interested in an edit war. In fact, I had no idea you were working on the article...it appeared that you just added more wrestling events (I still feel we've already gone overboard on listing examples of events) and arbitrarily removed the Articleissues template. I look forward to your improvements. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 07:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About the references...four of the six are from AEG sources. That's why I said that more independent sources are needed. Not that the AEG sources are suspect, but it would give the article more credibility if more independent sources are used. And what evidence do you have that no one involved with AEG has contributed to this article? I'm not trying to cause trouble...it's just that in its present form, the article reads like a publicity piece for the arena. That brings up suspicions about who has had a hand in writing it. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 07:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My doubt that AEG has contributed to the article in any form is in part confirmed by the fact that the IPs I've checked have been traced to locations outside of California (AEG is a Los Angeles based company) and in part by the fact that Wikipedia is not for things made up one day (Hope you understand that one). It would certainly help if you specifically pointed out which parts of the article you feel are inappropriate for encyclopedic content.-- bulletproof ^3:16 08:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I probably won't be able to get back to this for a few days...FYI... -- Gmatsuda (talk) 10:00, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]