Talk:Wally Hedrick

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Multiple uses of a reference

Where the same source is used more than once in the article as a reference, it should be given a name the first time it's used, e.g.:

<ref name=smith> ''Details of reference as normal'' </ref>

The second time or subsequent times the same reference is used in the article, use the name as a short cut, e.g.:

Don't forget the / or subsequent text won't appear!

The source then appears once in the reference section with a, b, c etc linked to the different uses in the text. See William Bowyer for an example.

Also, it's not usual to quote chunks of text in the footnotes. If it's important, it should go in the article, or be paraphrased in the article.

Tyrenius 15:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral point of view needs to be maintained

I'm really glad that this article exists and I appreciate the effort that has gone into it. I do feel though that it's getting a bit out of hand. The artist is best served by a neutral encyclopedic artcle. To this end it needs a bit of cleaning-up: there shouldn't be so many separate sections, and the section headings should avoid over-stating the case or presenting a particular point of view (eg "Hedrick's Pre-Pop Paintings Predate Japer Johns"). Also the references need to be integrated into the text, rather than standing alone.--Ethicoaestheticist 21:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your comment.

However, may I ask how can one overstate a date? and quoted citations that clearly state the case, FINALLY, from a neutral (ie non-east coast centric) point of view?

John Coplan, 1963, “Pop Art, USA," Oakland Museum catalog essay for the exhibition. Reprinted Artforum, October 1963: 27-30. See also Solnit below:

Recently, the cultural historian Rebecca Solnit in her 1990 book, The Secret Exhibition: Six Californian Artists, reasserted Hedrick’s artistic achievements:
"It is now possible to say that Hedrick was ahead of his time: the first American to protest the Vietnam War, the artist to paint flags before Jasper Johns painted flags, who made kinetic junk sculpture before Tinguely did. Hedrick was a forerunner of Pop Art, Bad Painting, Neo-Expressionism, and image appropriation. It might be more useful to view Hedrick as an artist who was of his time in a unique way, a maverick whose responses to the world showed it in a different light." Rebecca Solnit, 1990, The Secret Exhibition: Six California Artists.

Respectfully, and thank you for allowing a prejudiced history to be neutralized --Art4em 01:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Art4em Don't worry, I'm not going to launch into an argument about who painted flags first! "Hedrick's pre-Pop paintings pre-date Jasper Johns" is fine as a statement in the article, backed up, as it is, with sources (though the repeated prefix does look a bit over-defensive!). When the same statement is used as a section heading, though, it becomes something else. As ever there's a wiki policy to give advice on this sort of thing. WP:NPOV#Article structure lists "'Segregation' of text or other content into different regions or subsections, based solely on the apparent POV of the content itself" as something that may warrant attention. The capitalization didn't help, and the de-capitalization of the section headings in accordance with wikistyle has partly addressed the problem.--Ethicoaestheticist 10:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you...I appreciate all your comments. I freely admit I have a stylistic handicap -- which I usually remedy with paid editors. Thank you and warm regards --Art4em 17:13, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've rearranged the article into chronological order. I think this makes it easier to follow.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 20:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looked over it quickly -- but looks GREAT ! ! ! Thank you for your continued support. I am hoping to begin working on 1970 - 2000 as soon as I gather the images. Best... --Art4em (talk) 00:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:MOS

User:John is very familiar with WP:MOS usage, so I've asked him to look through the article with that mind, which he has kindly done. Tyrenius (talk) 12:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]