Talk:Truth serum

Name of the article, "truth serum" or "truth drug"

Google shows 70,000+ results for "truth serum" and 8,000+ for "truth drug", maybe the first name would be more suitable? --xDCDx 16:58, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Addition to "Truth drugs in popular culture"?

While probably not as well known as some of the others listed here, I was wondering if it might be worthwhile to add the use of "fastpenta" (a presumed thiopental derivative) in the science-fiction universe created by Lois McMaster Bujold? (since veritaserum and "The Undisputed Truth" are already included). thanks for the feedback, majoryan@hotmail.com

It would be better either to delete the whole section or move it into page of its own so kids could have a nice place to play and add all the latest videogames Pavel Vozenilek 04:38, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

In the episode of the Fairly Odd Parents,"A Bad Case of Diary-Uh", Vicky uses the truth serum or truth drugh with Timmy, For know, whence he get that personal information from her, Timmy answers the Internet, so Vicky uses the truth serum & he says he read it from her diary. Sarah sofía 18:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I certainly consider the popular culture sections to be worthless collections of trivia. Secretlondon 12:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, the entire pop culture section adds nothing to the article and is inappropriate in an encyclopedia article. I am deleting it. If anyone wants to discuss it, please do so here on the talk page. Beatdown 19:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I just added a sentence on the movie True Lies before reading this talk page. I've found no policy on the inappropriateness of pop culture trivia in WP:LOP. WP:TRIVIA is a proposed policy or guideline. WP:AVTRIV says "This guideline does not suggest deletion of trivia sections. Instead, consider it a list of "facts pending integration" or "facts lacking sufficient context for integration." As far as I know, there is no standard definition of "interesting", "important", or "relevant" on Wikipedia, as those terms are all subjective. I understand lists of pop culture trivia can get out of hand, but I see no reason to delete related information. Perhaps the page on True Lies should link to truth drug and not vice versa. Thoughts? --Pixelface 23:03, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Pixel, I think it would be great if you link to the Truth Drug page from the True Lies page. I don't think the Truth Drug page should link to True Lies. I agree that some trivia is nice, and pop culture references often engage readers. However, it has been my experience that these often get out of hand (as was the case on this page). For that reason, unless it is essential and adds to the informational value of the article, I generally find most pop culture references to not fit the encyclopedic nature that wikipedia aspires to. Beatdown 01:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

How used?

Are all these drugs injected intravenously or do you swallow them? jengod 01:28, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

removed section

I removed the following. It's unsourced (as is much of the article, which should be fixed), and it sounds like rampant speculation rather than documented fact to me. --Robert Merkel 15:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Truth drugs, like anaesthetics, have a recovery period. Some leave subjects with intense nausea, disorientation, lack of balance, tiredness or other discomforting symptoms for a considerable time after being used.

Narcoanalysis was the old name given to the procedure of questioning a psychiatric patient while still under the influence of a narcotic drug given in very low dosage to ensure proper function of the remaining parts of the brain except the prefrontal brain region.

Narcosynthesis is the act of giving orders and instructions and making suggestions to a human subject while he/she is under the influence of a narcotic drug used in low dose. The subject is unconscious. His/her brain's prefrontal lobes are inactive under the drug's influence. The remaining parts of the brain are active. The orders, instructions and suggestions given to the subject state and determine what the subject will do and/or what he/she will think at a predetermined time in the future when he/she will be conscious. These orders, instructions and suggestions are recorded in the unconscious part of the brain. They are not remembered while the subject is conscious. These orders, instructions and suggestions are executed while the subject is conscious when their predetermined time is up. The subject perceives these as thoughts, impulses, intentions and desires which come up to his/her consciousness in a sudden manner. The given orders and instructions are executed in an automated fashion without any influence from the conscious mind. The subject perceives these events as the instinctive and uncontrolled execution of his/her own desires and impulses coming from the unconscious. The method of narcosynthesis can be strenghtened, augmented by the use of pain infliction during the process of giving orders and instructions. ie by torture.

Add proposal

i suggest to create a short paragraph about CIA's mind control operations, with liks to the different operations, such as Project MKDELTA, MKNAOMI, Project MKULTRA Project ARTICHOKE, Project BLUEBIRD etc. --84.221.197.36 (talk) 01:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)