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Rapid KL bus route

It was created because the rapidKL website was so hideous and was hard to read. Nowadays, its better but still not user friendly. I always keep in mind that one day someone will question the existence of these bus routes, and it may not be appropriate accordng to Wikipedia's many policies. However, I insist that we have it, and maybe making it a lil more simpler, that is, having the table, but less "Via" destinations. I found that those destinations have increased significantly over the recent days.

If the conditions warrant the route table to be removed, then do it. As long as there is an external link to the bus schedule from rapidKL website. --Zack2007 13:57, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good Job with all the additions and motifications on the transportation pages in Malaysia. Without you, it will be left stagnant and stubbed. I am pretty busy nowadays so if I have the hands, I will help you and others. Thank you so much k. You deserve a tap on the back. :D --07:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zack2007 (talkcontribs)

I don't really need praise. I just want to encourage people to get off their lazy butts and start contributing shit. I'm not expected to keep this up forever because I have a life too. But thanks anyway. I have to admit it, with last week's Barnstar and now this, I'm flattered. It's "pat", not "tap", btw. :D - Two hundred percent 10:47, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Barnstar of National Merit
For all your work with Malaysia-related articles, I, Sharkface217, hereby award you this barnstar. --Sharkface217 03:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Education in X redirects

Hi. I notice that, on September 9, you created a substantial number of cross-namespace redirects to "Education in X" categories. I initially encountered only one such redirect and was planning on nominating it for deletion (at WP:RFD), but decided to discuss the issue with you directly after noticing just how many redirects were involved (about 50). There are two reasons I think such redirects should be deleted.

Firstly, cross-namespace redirects are generally discouraged and frequently deleted (see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Precedents). Secondly, and more importantly, the existence of these redirects discourages article creation. Take, for instance, the template at the bottom of Education in Africa#External links. A redlink is essentially an invitation to create an article, whereas people have to click a bluelink in order to realise that it's a redirect. This is especially true of links to articles on lists of topics by country. These lists are used by many for article development (i.e. to see what articles still need to be created) and a bluelink that is merely a redirect to a category gives the illusion that an article actually exists, thereby decreasing the likelihood that someone will see the need for and try to create the article.

So, I just wanted your thoughts on the matter. Thanks, Black Falcon (Talk) 00:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your concern, Black Falcon. The prime motivator for creating these redirects was preparations to replace {{Education by country}} with continental templates for coverage of all countries rather than a selected fraction (I left a comment at Template talk:Education by country earlier voicing my opinion on using cross-namespace redirects). Given virtually all red "Education in..." links have not been attended to for a long time (and probably won't for quite some time due to systemic bias), a redirect to an existing category listing related topics could serve as a temporary linkage to at least something rather than nothing. I also functioned under the perception that those who intend to replace any redirects in the future with articles would be aware of how redirects work.

Working under the idea that perception is important, however, I can see where you are going with your explanation. I was planning to finish off with remaining continents, but with consensus ruling against this sort of redirects (one of reasonings is to be friendly towards mirror), there are solid grounds for me to stop and have existing redirects deleted. You may list all of them for deletion whenever you see fit. Thanks again for bringing this up. - Two hundred percent 02:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. If you don't object to the deletions, I can simply speedily delete the redirects (per speedy deletion criterion G7), without the need for a 7-day review at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. – Black Falcon (Talk) 03:14, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me. - Two hundred percent 03:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 03:51, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

It's spelled similar in every country that uses English. Look the word up. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 01:04, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, this is also listed in WP:TYPO's list of common misspellings. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 01:10, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be damned. I stand corrected. - Two hundred percent 16:23, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject:Malaysia collaboration of the Month is Malaysia

Hi there. Based on the majority votes, we have selected Malaysia to be our first Collaboration of the month for October 2007. Please feel free to contribute and make suggestions to improve the article. And can you add your name to the list of project members so its easier to locate all participants. Thanks! kawaputratorque 05:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, your user page came up on a google search for "malaysia copyright", so I am hoping you can help me. I am looking for whether works of the Malay government are public domain. Specifically, s:Lee Hsien Loong's speech, National Day Rally 2005 (Malay) is a presumably a work of the government (English translation), and the terms of use on that site dont indicate that it is PD. John Vandenberg (talk) 05:48, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for having not answered for so long, but I have absolutely no idea how I can help. This speech that you speak of is sourced from a Singaporean organisation, which country it is based in also acknowledges Malay as a national language. Lee Hsien Loong is also Singaporean, so the entire issue falls under Singapore's jurisdiction. I have no knowledge of Singapore's copyright policy since I deal more specifically to Malaysia-related articles, but you should have better luck asking anyone affliated with Wikipedia:SGpedians' notice board. Sorry again for my belatedness. - Two hundred percent (talk) 14:28, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Working Man's barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
I, Acs4b, hereby award you the Working Man's barnstar for all your diligence and hard work by improving Wikipedia's poor coverage on Malaysia-related articles. Congratulations! Keep up the good work and please don't stop contributing to Wikipedia! Acs4b T C U 11:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

KTM/Malaysian photos

Hi there

I'm just back from a holiday in your fine country, and I've got a few photographs to share (pd-self). I've uploaded a few (check my contribs at commons), but I'm not sure how to name the others.

Would you like me to email them to you? You can upload them and find a way to fit them into articles, categories, etc. You can manipulate them anyway you like, as long as the images remain public domain. Looking forward to your reply, cheers. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 11:20, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you've missed my comment on your talk. What do you think of my suggestion? --Rifleman 82 (talk) 14:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the message. Your suggestion is a viable, although it's equally effective if the original images could be uploaded to Commons (renaming not necessary), licensed under PD, and allowed to be plucked by me for improvements. Will need to do a bit of deletion later when I replace the old images with edited ones, but it should work out well.

Sorry about the delay, totally overlooked your message. I wish my country was peachy though. :C - Two hundred percent (talk) 15:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Was a nice holiday, heh. :) I'm perfectly happy with uploading at commons, as I have done already. The main problem is that I don't know how to properly name some of these photos because I only have a vague idea of where they were taken. Perhaps I can just give them very generic names "KL 1.jpg" and you can tag them for renaming later. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 15:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll do my best as far as the names are concerned. Will be waiting for the pictures. - Two hundred percent (talk) 15:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For starters, images of a marina at Penang, and a few others:

--Rifleman 82 (talk) 15:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm kind of bogged down with work at the moment. But I can give a few pointers.

The first four shots are of the recently completed Tanjung City Marina off Weld Quay, Georgetown, including the historic Church Street (Ghaut) Pier (linked directly to shore).[1] It's apparent the end of the Church Street Pier facing the sea was either demolished in place of new structures or augmented into the additions.

The fifth shot is presumably remnants of the Tan Jetty, Lee Jetty, or both, southwest from Chew Jetty and Lim Jetty.[2] Both jetties were apparently demolished for some coastal development, perhaps involving land reclamation. There was a local newspaper report on their demolition and the uncertain fate of the remaining jetties a year back.

Based on these assessments, the present names are fine by me. It's the descriptions that require expansion.

Visually, the first two and the last two shots are fine, although the first shot is somewhat awkward with a single pillar in the foreground partially blocking the view of the marina. There are no severe tilting, which can't be said with the third shot (Will work on that later. It's a bit late now). The last four are perfect for cropping from the top and bottom to trim out the sea and sky, good as panoramic versions of the original (which can be retained alongside the panoramic versions).

Will look into these further the coming night. - Two hundred percent (talk) 18:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments, do take your time. Since you reminded me, I've uploaded one more shot of the Church Street Pier:
. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 03:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP Malaysia: January 2008 collaboration

Hello, based on the total votes collected in December, our collaboration of the month will be ♦ Mahathir bin Mohamad ♦. Please feel free to make improvements on the article, or comment or give ideas on ways to further improve the quality of the article. Thanks. kawaputratorque 18:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've fixed it. There was a cut-and-paste move that got deleted after the original article got converted to a redirect and moved to a third location... sheesh. The talk page may be lost forever though, as it was forked off in many directions. east.718 at 14:00, January 3, 2008

WikiProject Malaysia announcement

Hi there. I just want to announce that this month's collaboration will be ΦЏ Orang Asli ЏΦ. You are encouraged to participate in improving the quality of this article by however means you wish. I would suggest that our target by the end of the month would be for this article to achieve a Good Article status. Happy editing! kawaputratorque 13:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Translation needed

To: User:Kawaputra, User:Two hundred percent, User:Edmundwoods

Hello, I would like to ask you for help. We are having problems determining whether Malaysia recognised Kosovo as independent state. Here is a statement from Malay Ministry of foreign affairs and I would like to ask you to clarify to us if this is formal recognition, or something other from that. Please answer [[3]]. Thanks in advance, 92.37.123.179 (talk) 00:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

April 2008 collaboration

Hi there. We need more votes again for our April 2008 collaboration. As of March 27, only 6 members have voted. Please do exercise your right to vote! Thanks! :-) White2020 (talk) 04:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]