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List of Equipment

I have created the North Korean Air Force list of equipment section. Any updates, suggestions or comments would be appreciated. Mathieu121 10:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have done perfect job. in fact North Korea is a big mystery and is very difficult to know their real inventory in service in three arms. the only i am sure is that the SU-7 planes and the AA-1 Alkali is impossible to be in service today . they are extremely old to be in service. impossible to have spare parts for them. about the other eguipment i believe that at least the half of them is out of service. lack of money , spare parts . the only sure is that the best defence of country are the missiles that is the most dangerous threat for the countries close to North Korea. John Athens Greece . 9 June 2007

Names

Are the names translated from Korean, or are they external (e.g. US) names? Fg2 15:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe they are the Chinese version of the migs if that is what you mean. Mathieu121 10:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sunchon Mig-29s

The article says that Mig-29s are suspected at Sunchon, but upon closer inspection of the Google Maps imagery, there appears to be one maybe two on the tarmac near a small hanger/ maintenance shed: Google Maps Anyone else see the same thing? Grunherz 20:03, 8 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Those are Migs? They don't look the same shape. I think the real planes are just to the North-East. 192.147.171.225 05:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fix the table please

nuff said BQZip01 15:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

North Korea posessing MiG-29As or MiG-29C (Product 9.13)s?

Here's a shot of a NK Fulcrum

http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/pic_16.jpg

A Mig-29C 9-13

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/visits2-pages/moscow_2005_files/day_02_14.jpg

And a MiG-29A

http://letectvi.wz.cz/rusko/mig29/mig29_2.jpg

It's obvious that NK has the MiG-29C, since it has the characteristic "Fatback" airframe. I'm hearing that the variant is the Product 9.13 variant of the MiG-29C (or MiG-29S, if you want to get technical). Can anyone confirm that NK has the MiG-29C 9-13 and not the MiG-29A? (123)

Since nobody objects to the proof, I'll change the status shortly. I'll state that NK has the MiG-29S (possibly being the 9.13 variant), and that they also possibly possess the older MiG-29As. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 00:58, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Qustion

The article doesn’t answer the question of how the hell they actually ended up with the MD 500, an American chopper. There must be a story behind that... --Viva43 14:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My guess is that the US exported the MD500 to Iran, back when they were allies (Before Khomeini and the Iranian Revolution in '79). Somewhere along the line (after the revolution), Iran may have bought some ballistic weapons or some sort of NK weaponry in exchange for their captured fleet of MD500s (captured from the pre-Khomeini US-Allied Iran, I assume Khomeini's army captured the MD500 the same way they captured the F-14s the US sold to Iran when they were allies).

Also, is it necesessary for the article to explain the process of NK's acquisition of the MD500s? ...maybe it is, but unless others think so, I find it unnessecary info as of now.(123)

K... All of this^^ is pure speculation... and very inaccurate information too. There are several sources about the MD-500, Air International, Global Security.org. This on is from FAS.org: http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/dprk/agency/af.htm

"P'yongyang was rather late in recognizing the full potential of the helicopter. During the 1980s, the North Korean armed forces increased their helicopter inventory from about forty to about 300. In 1985 North Korea circumvented United States export controls to indirectly buy eighty-seven United Statesmanufactured civilian versions of the Hughes MD-500 helicopters before the United States government stopped further deliveries. Reports indicate that at least sixty of the helicopters delivered were modified as gunships. Because South Korea licenses and produces the MD-500 for use in its armed forces, the modified helicopters were useful in North Korea's covert or deceptive operations. The transport fleet has some Soviet transports from the 1950s and 1960s."

By the way, can editor please sign any and all entries they make? (192.43.227.18 03:12, 17 October 2007 (UTC)Bobbo9000)[reply]

Oh cool! A source! Anyways, my "guess" above was... well, just a guess. No need to take it seriously, as it was indeed, just a guess. I think I made my point clear. (123) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 21:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 21:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly Possessing both MiG-29A and MiG-29C (video proof)

This video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HByXYxYN7H4&eurl=http://bemil.chosun.com/brd/view.html?tb=BEMIL087&pn=2&num=10303

of the KPAF seems to show a MiG-29A, but I can't tell exactly because of the poor angle the shot was taken at. Can someone else share their opinion? Although I'm rather sure that it's a MiG-29A, someone else may provide better reasoning to justify it as the MiG-29C. I also believe that we've established that NK does indeed possess MiG-29S variats, yet we are unsure if it has the MiG-29A variant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.184.238 (talk) 05:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]